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Archaea, you've always had a hard time with this issue. I'm glad your rhetoric on it has become more civil, albeit no less misguided and guided by prejudices.
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Have you ever forced yourself to continue eating food you just hate? Over time, you can acquire taste for it, don't you think? Frankly, I am unaware how much volition can affect sexuality, but to dismiss it out of hand seems irresponsible.
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IMO It is NOT purely genetics or choice but rather a combination of many factors. Seatlles poll does not permit a broader declaration. |
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How could you conclude that? Logically, it can't be true that all abusers were abused. Otherwise, there wouldn't have ever been a first abuser.
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Tooblue, I have a question for you. And I mean this with all due respect and sensitivity. You seem to want us to accept at face value your opinion on the "is being gay a choice?" issue simply because of your traumatic childhood experience, and without really elicudating for us the relevancy (indeed, you are a heterosexual). Why, on the same principal, do you dismiss out of hand the personal testimony of the vast majority of if not virtually all gays? It's their testament above all else that persuades me.
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Ultimately, isn't the issue whether homosexuality is 100% volition? If there is even 5% of it that is beyond our "control," then I feel that it is unfair to disallow marriage and pursuit of happiness.
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We have two somewhat prominent issue groups, and you merely point to them and say, "how can you accuse gays of being more vigilant than bible thumpers?" However, bible thumpers have many issues whereas gays have fewer. BTs worry about abortion, creationism, prayer, drugs and gay marriage. For gay activists their entire world involves predominantly gay issues, not ancillary issues to divert their attentions and resources. Your argumentation is not compelling and may not show up on a correlative study, though you may try to use it in a moot court competition.
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That does not mean that pedophiles are created. There is a clear distinction between a victim of abuse and a genetically compelled predator. That is why it is reprehensible to compare a homosexual to a pedophile. |
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Doesn't society have the right to determine what it considers marriage and what it doesn't consider marriage? The policy argument that society should include within its definitions as two same sex people as married benefits society how? We've been down this road and I've never been too impressed as they are basically emotionally arguments.
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