Good quote from an article I read at lunch

[Flystripper]

Originally Posted by NorCal Cat

Just because your parents were just too lazy, or bordered on abusing you, doesn't mean everyone else is the same way.

Please enlighten me...what horrible lesson does it teach?

Lesson: When you don't like what somebody else is doing, hit them until they stop. Kids learn social behavior by observing their parents and peers.

[NorCal Cat]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Well, how has spanking worked for you? I supposed your kids no longer misbehave?

At the end of their childhood, your kids will largely be a product of their environment, your example, and their own decisions. Your hitting them will have little to do with any of it. But, they WILL remember, even as adults, that you hit them.

We all remember.

Actually, I can't even remember the last time I spanked one of my boys. I have done it probably 4 or 5 times total between the two oldest boys. I usually just send them to their room.

What's wrong with them remembering a rare spanking? Or excuse me, as you like to phrase it, that I "hit them". Gasp!

[NorCal Cat]

Originally Posted by Flystripper

Lesson: When you don't like what somebody else is doing, hit them until they stop.

That is such bullshit. Where do you come up with this crap? We are frequently complimented by our sons' teachers, and other parents on how well our sons get along with other kids. Why aren't they hitting every kid that does something they don't like? I never got into fights, or beat kids "until they stopped" either.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by NorCal Cat

What's wrong with them remembering a rare spanking?

Well, that is really only a question you can answer for you and your family.

Everybody's answer is different.

[Flystripper]

Originally Posted by NorCal Cat

That is such bullshit. Where do you come up with this crap? We are frequently complimented by our sons' teachers, and other parents on how well our sons get along with other kids. Why aren't they hitting every kid that does something they don't like? I never got into fights, or beat kids "until they stopped" either.

bullshit? says you. You said you have rarely spanked your boys. The lesson prolly never sunk in, but it does not mean that this "lesson" would not be learned with frequent spankings. Since you rarely spanked your boys, I doubt their good behavior could be attributed to the few times that you did.

[FMCoug]

[quote = NorCalCat]Are you all really such pussies that you never lay a hand on your kids?[/quote]

Way to prove your manhood! Of course I guess if you spend your life biting pillows you need to beat your kids to feel like you are powerful.

[NorCal Cat]

Originally Posted by FMCoug

[quote = NorCalCat]Are you all really such pussies that you never lay a hand on your kids?

Way to prove your manhood! Of course I guess if you spend your life biting pillows you need to beat your kids to feel like you are powerful.[/QUOTE]

Ah right, I should prove my manhood by building a huge house, and posting pictures of its construction on the Net for everyone to see.

It's got nothing to do with manhood. It's got everything to do with people like you being so duped by the touch-feely, we need to be in touch with our inner-feelings, everyone gets a trophy, offend no one, bullcrap that has been fed to society over the last several years.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by NorCal Cat

It's got everything to do with people like you being so duped by the touch-feely, we need to be in touch with our inner-feelings, everyone gets a trophy, offend no one, bullcrap that has been fed to society over the last several years.

I get your point, but look at the concepts you are mocking:

sensitivity to feelings
offending no one
everyone winning, nobody losing

I am not sure those things are that ridiculous.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by NorCal Cat

Way to prove your manhood! Of course I guess if you spend your life biting pillows you need to beat your kids to feel like you are powerful.

Ah right, I should prove my manhood by building a huge house, and posting pictures of its construction on the Net for everyone to see.

It's got nothing to do with manhood. It's got everything to do with people like you being so duped by the touch-feely, we need to be in touch with our inner-feelings, everyone gets a trophy, offend no one, bullcrap that has been fed to society over the last several years.

When you beat your kids, do you tell them that they can defend themselves if they feel like it? Or do you just beat them until they give up?

[NorCal Cat]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

I get your point, but look at the concepts you are mocking:

sensitivity to feelings
offending no one
everyone winning, nobody losing

I am not sure those things are that ridiculous.

No, of course they aren't ridiculous...if you live in the Land of Oz.

Are you one of these people that has taken the whole "politically correct" nonsense to the extreme? Guess what, you don't have the right to not be offended. REALITY is that people will and do say things that other people may (gasp!) find offensive.

Reality is, sometimes society, people, etc. need to give priority to the truth, rather than being "sensitive" to people's feelings.

Reality is, everyone does NOT win. Everyone does not get the job offer, everyone does not get the promotion at work, etc. In the REAL world, not Oz, there are winners and losers.