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myboynoah · 03-16-2008, 01:24 AM

"He helped bring me to Jesus and helped bring me to church. He and I have a relationship -- he's like an uncle who talked to me, not about political things and social views, but faith and God and family."

"The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation."

Obama must take us for a bunch of rubes.

il Padrino Ute · 03-16-2008, 01:28 AM

Ummm..... ok. If you say so, Barack.

He must have slept through all the political preaching.

myboynoah · 03-16-2008, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Ummm..... ok. If you say so, Barack.

He must have slept through all the political preaching.

How long has he known this bigot? Ten plus years? Sure, politics never came up. Yet the bigot is the first person he thanks after being elected to the Senate.

Puts his wife's statements into perspective.

I think this kills Obama's GE chances because this will not go away. Rasmussen said this morning that his negatives are up to 49%. That's Hillary level.

BarbaraGordon · 03-16-2008, 01:41 AM

I actually wonder if Wright and Ferraro aren't using their favorite candidates to try to forward their own personal political agendas. It's certainly clear they each have very passionate feelings about certain issues.

Regarding Obama, it's odd that someone running a campaign around a record of judgment/discretion couldn't possibly have chosen a church with more political liability.

Did you see that Obama is also suggesting he and Hillary just split the FL and MI delegates 50/50. He does realize that that's the same as not seating the delegates at all, right?

SoonerCoug · 03-16-2008, 01:42 AM

Is his pastor completely wrong when he says our nation is controlled by rich white people?

il Padrino Ute · 03-16-2008, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by myboynoah

How long has he known this bigot? Ten plus years? Sure, politics never came up. Yet the bigot is the first person he thanks after being elected to the Senate.

Puts his wife's statements into perspective.

I think this kills Obama's GE chances because this will not go away. Rasmussen said this morning that his negatives are up to 49%. That's Hillary level.

I agree 100% and Obama has nobody but himself to blame for associating with a bigoted hate monger.

On a bright note, I have to admit I love this. Dems look as if they'll blow it again.

BarbaraGordon · 03-16-2008, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SoonerCoug

Is his pastor completely wrong when he says our nation is controlled by rich white people?

Um, that's about the least offensive of his remarks.

il Padrino Ute · 03-16-2008, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SoonerCoug

Is his pastor completely wrong when he says our nation is controlled by rich white people?

If that was the only thing he said, he wouldn't be a bigot.

SoonerCoug · 03-16-2008, 01:46 AM

McCain's pastor:

il Padrino Ute · 03-16-2008, 01:47 AM

Sooner, are you trying to justify the Reverend Wright's hate?

03-16-2008, 01:24 AM	#1
myboynoah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Memphis freakin' Tennessee!!!!! Posts: 4,530	C'mon Obama, we weren't born yesterday "He helped bring me to Jesus and helped bring me to church. He and I have a relationship -- he's like an uncle who talked to me, not about political things and social views, but faith and God and family." "The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation." Obama must take us for a bunch of rubes. __________________ Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!! Religion rises inevitably from our apprehension of our own death. To give meaning to meaninglessness is the endless quest of all religion. When death becomes the center of our consciousness, then religion authentically begins. Of all religions that I know, the one that most vehemently and persuasively defies and denies the reality of death is the original Mormonism of the Prophet, Seer and Revelator, Joseph Smith.

03-16-2008, 01:28 AM	#2
il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	Ummm..... ok. If you say so, Barack. He must have slept through all the political preaching. __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.

03-16-2008, 01:47 AM	#10
il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	Sooner, are you trying to justify the Reverend Wright's hate? __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.

03-16-2008, 01:41 AM	#4
BarbaraGordon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Gotham City Posts: 7,157	I actually wonder if Wright and Ferraro aren't using their favorite candidates to try to forward their own personal political agendas. It's certainly clear they each have very passionate feelings about certain issues. Regarding Obama, it's odd that someone running a campaign around a record of judgment/discretion couldn't possibly have chosen a church with more political liability. Did you see that Obama is also suggesting he and Hillary just split the FL and MI delegates 50/50. He does realize that that's the same as not seating the delegates at all, right?

03-16-2008, 01:42 AM	#5
SoonerCoug Formerly known as MudPhudCoug Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Land of desolation Posts: 2,548	Is his pastor completely wrong when he says our nation is controlled by rich white people?

03-16-2008, 01:46 AM	#9
SoonerCoug Formerly known as MudPhudCoug Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Land of desolation Posts: 2,548	McCain's pastor: