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Old 03-27-2008, 08:19 PM   #1
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"George Bush called this the ownership society, but what he really meant was 'you're-on-your-own' society," Obama told a town hall meeting here, tying McCain to a president whose popularity is low. "John McCain apparently wants to continue this."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...26-obama_N.htm

How far we've come from Ronald Reagans quip, "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:21 PM   #2
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I'll wait for cali to tell me what Obama really meant when he said that.
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I'll wait for cali to tell me what Obama really meant when he said that.
You sound like Tex.
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:25 PM   #4
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You sound like Tex.
It was rather Tex-like, wasn't it?

Still, I'm apparently wrong whenever I've tried to figure out what Obama says. I just want to make sure I know what I'm talking about from now on.
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:33 PM   #5
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It was rather Tex-like, wasn't it?

Still, I'm apparently wrong whenever I've tried to figure out what Obama says. I just want to make sure I know what I'm talking about from now on.
Well, whatever the Senator from Illinois is trying to say, it reeks of bigger government.

What pisses me off the most is that he's using this commie prop as an insult to GWB. Of all the things to criticize the President on, he picks this. So much for rugged individualism.
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Old 03-27-2008, 11:35 PM   #6
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All three candidates gave speeches on the economy this week. Hillary first, McCain yesterday, and Obama today.

As indicated above, Obama took the "Don't worry we'll fix everything" approach. McCain took the "Economy, what economy?" angle. And Hillary took the "Just make sure I get elected and leave everything else to me" approach.

Hillary's speech:
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/speech/view/?id=6695

McCain's speech:
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/...b68b9be7ee.htm

Obama's speech and proposal:
http://www.barackobama.com/2008/03/2...ck_obam_54.php
http://obama.3cdn.net/f9836ef496f75a9be0_39gimvt5b.pdf
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:12 AM   #7
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All three candidates gave speeches on the economy this week. Hillary first, McCain yesterday, and Obama today.

As indicated above, Obama took the "Don't worry we'll fix everything" approach. McCain took the "Economy, what economy?" angle. And Hillary took the "Just make sure I get elected and leave everything else to me" approach.

Hillary's speech:
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/speech/view/?id=6695

McCain's speech:
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/...b68b9be7ee.htm

Obama's speech and proposal:
http://www.barackobama.com/2008/03/2...ck_obam_54.php
http://obama.3cdn.net/f9836ef496f75a9be0_39gimvt5b.pdf
I guess I don't read "economy, what economy" from McCain's speech. You did so because he doesn't propose massive government bail-outs and give-aways?

Seems to me he proposed reasonable measures of getting the private sector to be accountable, while repeating that more taxes will only hurt the economy more.
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I guess I don't read "economy, what economy" from McCain's speech. You did so because he doesn't propose massive government bail-outs and give-aways?

Seems to me he proposed reasonable measures of getting the private sector to be accountable, while repeating that more taxes will only hurt the economy more.
It was a joke, hyrum. None of the three synopses I provided was accurate.

McCain's address was sorely lacking in specifics, though. He really needs Romney. And soon.
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The US economy has had like 10 recessions since WWII. The longest of these lasted about a year and a half. There have only been two recessions in the last 25 years - both only lasting about seven months.

Why not let the business cycle take its course? Sometimes it's necessary to let the excess brush burn off, so the forest can grow again.

I'm not saying fiscal policy and oversight don't have their place, but every market correction doesn't need a six point plan by the federal government.
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The US economy has had like 10 recessions since WWII. The longest of these lasted about a year and a half. There have only been two recessions in the last 25 years - both only lasting about seven months.

Why not let the business cycle take its course? Sometimes it's necessary to let the excess brush burn off, so the forest can grow again.

I'm not saying fiscal policy and oversight don't have their place, but every market correction doesn't need a six point plan by the federal government.
Exactly.

The best thing for the economy is for the government to stay the hell out of the way.
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