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Old 09-28-2016, 02:05 AM   #1
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https://bycommonconsent.com/2016/09/...-culture-wars/

I worry that someday soon we are going to be seen as Westboro-lite. Fighting a war against gay persons that just baffles everyone. To the exclusion of virtually all other moral causes in the world.
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Does he live in a walled-off bunker in northern Idaho with stockpiles of firearms?

I have never been told working women or LGBT people are agents of Satan, or anything close.
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You're too young.

When I was growing up, that's when ETB told women to stay at home and not work. This was in the 80s. It caused a lot of consternation. Even til today, women with "real" careers in Mormondom feel looked down upon.

I can't ever recall a time or era where I felt the church was welcoming to its gay members. And that is manifest even until 2016 where the church, in its rhetoric, doesn't even acknowledge that gay people exist. They are just people struggling with same sex attraction. They are not gay. Because that is an identity, and God would never given someone that identity. Therefore they don't exist. They have a sinful nature, and that sinful nature is not from God.

There are examples of Mormon outreach to gays, mostly on the local level. And there have been news reports of those. But I think the overall thing that has happened is ostracization.
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I grew up being taught that mothers working is a last resort, and I held that belief well into adulthood. But nothing about being agents of the devil.
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This speech by ETB clearly links the designs of Satan with mothers working.

https://www.lds.org/general-conferen...woman?lang=eng
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For the Church's backbone constituency isn't the cultural wars what it's all about? It's not clear that the way to save the institution is to abandon its role as the last stand against progress. Look at the destruction of European religion and mainline religions. I think that cultural warrior is the LDS Church's brand and goodwill to the members who are vital to its continued existence.
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