Minimum Wage

[Colly Wolly]

Are you for or against a minimum wage? Why?

I'm against it for the typical republican, free-market reasons. People should be paid what the free market dictates they deserve. The government should stay out of it. It benefits a few at the expense of many.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by Colly Wolly

Are you for or against a minimum wage? Why?

I'm against it for the typical republican, free-market reasons. People should be paid what the free market dictates they deserve. The government should stay out of it. It benefits a few at the expense of many.

Amen, brother.

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by Colly Wolly

Are you for or against a minimum wage? Why?

I'm against it for the typical republican, free-market reasons. People should be paid what the free market dictates they deserve. The government should stay out of it. It benefits a few at the expense of many.

I'll make an alternative argument against. The government shouldn't be able to tell me how much I can sell my labor for. That's between me and my employer. Why is it legal for me to work for free but not for more than free but less than x?

[ChinoCoug]

Originally Posted by Colly Wolly

Are you for or against a minimum wage? Why?

I'm against it for the typical republican, free-market reasons. People should be paid what the free market dictates they deserve. The government should stay out of it. It benefits a few at the expense of many.

minimum wage makes work more attractive than welfare.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by ChinoCoug

minimum wage makes work more attractive than welfare.

I mostly disagree with this, but can agree with it in part:

I agree because I believe in working and earning one's lot in life.

I disagree because I've seen too many people who would rather sit on their hineys and cash their welfare check than actually get off the couch and work for their money.

[ChinoCoug]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

I mostly disagree with this, but can agree with it in part:

I agree because I believe in working and earning one's lot in life.

I disagree because I've seen too many people who would rather sit on their hineys and cash their welfare check than actually get off the couch and work for their money.

I don't see where the disagreement is (re minimum wage).

A lot of students at BYU make sure they don't work for over a certain # of hours so they can still receive their pell grant.

Most of us are doing the same thing, just on a smaller scale. We're just more educated than most poor people are to see that.

Blame the freakin system, not the people. Let's change the incentive structure so more people would rather work than receive welfare. Raise the minimum wage.

[ChinoCoug]

Originally Posted by BlueK

I'll make an alternative argument against. The government shouldn't be able to tell me how much I can sell my labor for. That's between me and my employer. Why is it legal for me to work for free but not for more than free but less than x?

to keep your employer from cajoling you and exploiting you

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by ChinoCoug

I don't see where the disagreement is (re minimum wage).

A lot of students at BYU make sure they don't work for over a certain # of hours so they can still receive their pell grant.

Most of us are doing the same thing, just on a smaller scale. We're just more educated than most poor people are to see that.

Blame the freakin system, not the people. Let's change the incentive structure so more people would rather work than receive welfare. Raise the minimum wage.

The disagreement is that the government is telling private business how much it has to pay it's employees.

I blame the people who work the system. Why get a job when you don't have to do anything to get a check?

I'm not talking about the students who need to work less than x amount of hours to be able to get a Pell Gran. I'm talking about the lazy people who don't want to work or go to school.

[ChinoCoug]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

The disagreement is that the government is telling private business how much it has to pay it's employees.

I blame the people who work the system. Why get a job when you don't have to do anything to get a check?

agreed

I'm not talking about the students who need to work less than x amount of hours to be able to get a Pell Gran. I'm talking about the lazy people who don't want to work or go to school.

I'm saying both are the same thing at different scales. We do the same thing those "lazy people" do when given the same incentive structure.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by ChinoCoug

I'm saying both are the same thing at different scales. We do the same thing those "lazy people" do when given the same incentive structure.

Got it.

Still, those who work and go to school understand the value of work. Quite e difference, IMO.