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MikeWaters · 06-15-2007, 02:21 PM

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.co...fte_verne.html

I really hate people that pretend there is no moral cost to what we do. Especially Mormons who pretend this.

Tex · 06-15-2007, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.co...fte_verne.html

I really hate people that pretend there is no moral cost to what we do. Especially Mormons who pretend this.

As long as we're hating people ("hate the person, not the .... wait, what was that again?") ... I really hate people who think there is any moral comparison on any level whatsoever between us and the Nazis.

BYU71 · 06-15-2007, 02:25 PM

have liberal views such as yourself express "hate" for people. I thought that was something conservatives did.

I like Sullivan but he is an idiot when it comes to his views.

MikeWaters · 06-15-2007, 02:29 PM

I think people that don't give a damn about civil liberties are a threat to this country, and I am a patriot.

Hate is not the appropriate word. It's not an emotion. It's a calculation and a plan.

BarbaraGordon · 06-15-2007, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I really hate people that pretend there is no moral cost to what we do.

The fact that the belief persists frightens me. A lot.

Tex · 06-15-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I think people that don't give a damn about civil liberties are a threat to this country, and I am a patriot.

Hate is not the appropriate word. It's not an emotion. It's a calculation and a plan.

It's good thing I care about civil liberties then, isn't it.

BYU71 · 06-15-2007, 02:35 PM

are more of a threat to the society. Overstatements on either side.

How can you ever have a bona fide threat to our civil liberties when organizations like the ACLU are allowed to run rampant.

MikeWaters · 06-15-2007, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

The fact that the belief persists frightens me. A lot.

You have people that praise God with one side of their mouth, and praise torture with the other.

Snipe and others, I think, would gladly participate in torture, and quite enjoy themselves.

But I know this. The future belongs to me. Not the fat old white men that would let evil be spoken as good.

Jeff Lebowski · 06-15-2007, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

As long as we're hating people ("hate the person, not the .... wait, what was that again?") ... I really hate people who think there is any moral comparison on any level whatsoever between us and the Nazis.

Of course you don't. Monochrome Tex.

JohnnyLingo · 06-15-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Snipe and others, I think, would gladly participate in torture, and quite enjoy themselves.

And I think you'd gladly rape goats. What's your point?

06-15-2007, 02:21 PM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Andew Sullivan on Bush's similarties to Nazis and others http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.co...fte_verne.html I really hate people that pretend there is no moral cost to what we do. Especially Mormons who pretend this.

06-15-2007, 02:25 PM	#3
BYU71 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,084	I find it interesting that those who have liberal views such as yourself express "hate" for people. I thought that was something conservatives did. I like Sullivan but he is an idiot when it comes to his views.

06-15-2007, 02:35 PM	#7
BYU71 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,084	Personally I think overstating things are more of a threat to the society. Overstatements on either side. How can you ever have a bona fide threat to our civil liberties when organizations like the ACLU are allowed to run rampant.

06-15-2007, 02:29 PM	#4
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I think people that don't give a damn about civil liberties are a threat to this country, and I am a patriot. Hate is not the appropriate word. It's not an emotion. It's a calculation and a plan.