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SeattleUte · 03-10-2008, 04:09 AM

It pains me to say it but I think if BYU wins the tournament in Vegas (I still hate how Vegas gets the home court every year) it deserves a no less than no. 6 seed, maybe 4 or 5. It ran away from the conference title, and under my scenario would have won the tournament. Moreover, winning at Louisville was a solid "quality win," even though Louisville now is not the same team it was then. Louisville finished in sole possession of second place in the Big East (Louisville came within three points of winning the Big East outright Saturday, losing at Georgetown by 3). Louisville is probably easily one of the ten best teams in the country now. If BYU gets a less than 8 seed then yes, I agree the committee hates BYU (though I've thought claims of bias were BS in the past).

Tex · 03-10-2008, 04:16 AM

We will get a 12 seed. As always.

livecoug · 03-10-2008, 05:32 AM

My scenario:

BYU wins tourney: 6 seed
BYU loses in champ: 8 seed
BYU loses before champ: 9 seed

RockyBalboa · 03-10-2008, 05:51 AM

I want to avoid the 8 or 9 seed. I'd be happy with a 6, 7 or 10.

But my guess is we get the 8 or 9.

Goatnapper'96 · 03-10-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

It pains me to say it but I think if BYU wins the tournament in Vegas (I still hate how Vegas gets the home court every year) it deserves a no less than no. 6 seed, maybe 4 or 5. It ran away from the conference title, and under my scenario would have won the tournament. Moreover, winning at Louisville was a solid "quality win," even though Louisville now is not the same team it was then. Louisville finished in sole possession of second place in the Big East (Louisville came within three points of winning the Big East outright Saturday, losing at Georgetown by 3). Louisville is probably easily one of the ten best teams in the country now. If BYU gets a less than 8 seed then yes, I agree the committee hates BYU (though I've thought claims of bias were BS in the past).

I agree with you. I have never felt that BYU's seeding in the past was unfair. What did BYU in was intra-conference comparisons. It was difficult to seed BYU above somebody else in the MWC who got a seed that they were deserving of and thus BYU ended up where it did. This year even if BYU loses the MWC tourney, I think BYU will still have a superior resume than any other conference foe. Nobody else will drag BYU down. If BYU wins the MWC tourney they will get a 6 or perhaps a 5 depending on how other teams in that vicinity do in their tourneys. I think it is important that MSU make a good run in the Big 10 tourney. If they choke that is one that could hurt BYU. It would be tough to seed BYU higher than MSU if the Spartans have one-two more losses than BYU, higher RPI and beat BYU.

If BYU loses the MWC tourney in the championship I see either a 7 or 8 seed- depending upon who BYU loses to and how competitive the game is. If they lose in the semis I see a 9 seed. If they lose in round 1, I see a 10 seed.

I have always felt BYU was seeded where they should have been. This year will be no different.

Indy Coug · 03-10-2008, 03:10 PM

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Spaz · 03-10-2008, 03:28 PM

In the past, IMO, we've been 1 or 2 seeds lower than most ranking services would suggest we should be. That's not that big a deal, considering SOS.

This year, we have a MUCH better resume than last (assuming at least a win or two in the Conf. Tourney), and therefore should be higher than last year's 8 seed.

If we win out through the tourney, I'd guess most bracketologists will slot us at 5-7, and I'd be happy with ANY of those seeds (6 being better than 7).

MikeWaters · 03-10-2008, 03:50 PM

Seed doesn't matter. I'm predicting a loss in the first round.

Indy Coug · 03-10-2008, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Seed doesn't matter. I'm predicting a loss in the first round.

So it doesn't matter if we face Maryland Baltimore County or Kansas?

MikeWaters · 03-10-2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

So it doesn't matter if we face Maryland Baltimore County or Kansas?

I'm saying we could be a 3 seed, and I wouldn't expect a win.

03-10-2008, 04:09 AM	#1
SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	This year may prove the selection committee hates BYU It pains me to say it but I think if BYU wins the tournament in Vegas (I still hate how Vegas gets the home court every year) it deserves a no less than no. 6 seed, maybe 4 or 5. It ran away from the conference title, and under my scenario would have won the tournament. Moreover, winning at Louisville was a solid "quality win," even though Louisville now is not the same team it was then. Louisville finished in sole possession of second place in the Big East (Louisville came within three points of winning the Big East outright Saturday, losing at Georgetown by 3). Louisville is probably easily one of the ten best teams in the country now. If BYU gets a less than 8 seed then yes, I agree the committee hates BYU (though I've thought claims of bias were BS in the past). __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster

03-10-2008, 04:16 AM	#2
Tex Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,596	We will get a 12 seed. As always. __________________ "Have we been commanded not to call a prophet an insular racist? Link?" "And yes, [2010] is a very good year to be a Democrat. Perhaps the best year in decades ..." - Cali Coug "Oh dear, granny, what a long tail our puss has got." - Brigham Young

03-10-2008, 05:51 AM	#4
RockyBalboa Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 7,297	I want to avoid the 8 or 9 seed. I'd be happy with a 6, 7 or 10. But my guess is we get the 8 or 9. __________________ Masquerading as Cougarguards very own genius dumbass since 05'.

03-10-2008, 05:32 AM	#3
livecoug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,176	My scenario: BYU wins tourney: 6 seed BYU loses in champ: 8 seed BYU loses before champ: 9 seed

03-10-2008, 03:10 PM	#6
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	http://www.cougarboard.com/noframes/...tml?id=2551129 http://www.cougarboard.com/noframes/...tml?id=2545435

03-10-2008, 03:28 PM	#7
Spaz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,371	In the past, IMO, we've been 1 or 2 seeds lower than most ranking services would suggest we should be. That's not that big a deal, considering SOS. This year, we have a MUCH better resume than last (assuming at least a win or two in the Conf. Tourney), and therefore should be higher than last year's 8 seed. If we win out through the tourney, I'd guess most bracketologists will slot us at 5-7, and I'd be happy with ANY of those seeds (6 being better than 7).

03-10-2008, 03:50 PM	#8
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Seed doesn't matter. I'm predicting a loss in the first round.