Adam Timo and Riley Nelson

[Goatnapper'96]

Originally Posted by cougjunkie

Nelson comes home in March I believe.

Lark is on a mission left same time as Munns.

I think we need a JC kid to be the stop gap between 2010 and Munns and/or Lark. I just dont think Nelson is that good.

Also it would not surprise me to see Heaps starting as a true freshman, he is that good.

I am in the camp that believes the most likely scenario is Heaps starting as a true freshman. I don't know how good he is but I don't think BYU's answer is Riley Nelson. There is no way Munns or Lark will start that fresh from mission service. Heaps is the guy by default and I think starts as a true freshman. Even though he will have a spring ball to prepare, he will still struggle. 2010 will be a huge rebuilding year for BYU. It is my prognostication that Unga will go pro after his junior year and leave with Hall, Collie and Pitta. BYU will be starting a true freshman qb and breaking in new skill players at every position, sans Oneil Howard and McKay Jacobsen. I think the talent will be fine but the lack of experience will result in 4-5 losses that season and more if Heaps is not as good as we think- which we have learned these top ranked qbs occassional flop.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96

I am in the camp that believes the most likely scenario is Heaps starting as a true freshman. I don't know how good he is but I don't think BYU's answer is Riley Nelson. There is no way Munns or Lark will start that fresh from mission service. Heaps is the guy by default and I think starts as a true freshman. Even though he will have a spring ball to prepare, he will still struggle. 2010 will be a huge rebuilding year for BYU. It is my prognostication that Unga will go pro after his junior year and leave with Hall, Collie and Pitta. BYU will be starting a true freshman qb and breaking in new skill players at every position, sans Oneil Howard and McKay Jacobsen. I think the talent will be fine but the lack of experience will result in 4-5 losses that season and more if Heaps is not as good as we think- which we have learned these top ranked qbs occassional flop.

I agree.

I think Heaps is all that and a bag of chips, but I'm skeptical of starting not just him, but any True Freshman at QB. It rarely goes well regardless of how talented they are. Not to say he won't and can't succeed at BYU or wherever he ends up signing, but it'll likely be a bumpy ride for BYU as a whole in 2010.

[Hot Lunch]

Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96

I am in the camp that believes the most likely scenario is Heaps starting as a true freshman. I don't know how good he is but I don't think BYU's answer is Riley Nelson. There is no way Munns or Lark will start that fresh from mission service. Heaps is the guy by default and I think starts as a true freshman. Even though he will have a spring ball to prepare, he will still struggle. 2010 will be a huge rebuilding year for BYU. It is my prognostication that Unga will go pro after his junior year and leave with Hall, Collie and Pitta. BYU will be starting a true freshman qb and breaking in new skill players at every position, sans Oneil Howard and McKay Jacobsen. I think the talent will be fine but the lack of experience will result in 4-5 losses that season and more if Heaps is not as good as we think- which we have learned these top ranked qbs occassional flop.

I belong to the if Heaps signs he starts in 2010 camp as well. 2010 could be a difficult year offensively for the Y.

[Goatnapper'96]

Originally Posted by Hot Lunch

I belong to the if Heaps signs he starts in 2010 camp as well. 2010 could be a difficult year offensively for the Y.

Defensively as well. It will be a rough year.

[MikeWaters]

I'm going to be laughing at all you pessimists in 2010.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I'm going to be laughing at all you pessimists in 2010.

This is a football post from MW? Will wonders never cease?

[Hot Lunch]

Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96

Defensively as well. It will be a rough year.

Defensively I think that they will be alright. Putnam and Afutiti will be around at the ends. Manumaleuna and Fuga will be back to play tackle. The Secondary will be good with Bradley, Te'o, Pittman, Rich and Buckner to mention a few. Linebacker wise I don't know who will be around. Hopefully Manti but I am not counting on that. Those guys I mentioned are a pretty good bunch to build a defense around.

[Goatnapper'96]

Originally Posted by Hot Lunch

Defensively I think that they will be alright. Putnam and Afutiti will be around at the ends. Manumaleuna and Fuga will be back to play tackle. The Secondary will be good with Bradley, Te'o, Pittman and Buckner to mention a few. Linebacker wise I don't know who will be around. Hopefully Manti but I am not counting on that. Those guys I mentioned are a pretty good bunch to build a defense around.

In my projections of the two deep next year, every single linebacker but Grant Nelson will not be back in 2010.

I project the 4 OLBs to be So'oto, Clawson, Teo and Nelson.
I project the 4 ILBs to be Bauman, Hooks, Doman and Ah You.

Replacing 7 or 8 linebackers in a 3-4 makes for a bit of a struggle.

[Hot Lunch]

Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96

In my projections of the two deep next year, every single linebacker but Grant Nelson will not be back in 2010.

I project the 4 OLBs to be So'oto, Clawson, Teo and Nelson.
I project the 4 ILBs to be Bauman, Hooks, Doman and Ah You.

Replacing 7 or 8 linebackers in a 3-4 makes for a bit of a struggle.

I totally agree with you on the linebackers but I think that with all of the other positions we won't be to bad. Is it Ogletree that just got back from his mission? I can see him cracking the 2 deep next year. Is it Ogletree that just got back and will be in school in January? From what I hear he is the real deal.

[TheSizzle36]

Originally Posted by Hot Lunch

I totally agree with you on the linebackers but I think that with all of the other positions we won't be to bad. Is it Ogletree that just got back from his mission? I can see him cracking the 2 deep next year. Is it Ogletree that just got back and will be in school in January? From what I hear he is the real deal.

Ogletree? That is a name that has been around for a while. Is he redshirting this year? It seems like that name has been around forever without seeing any playing time.