Would you rather your school have Mountain West Conference titles or Nobel Prizes?

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Utes descending to Nobel Prize smack is about as desperate as it gets.

I think this deserves a LOL.

[Black Diamond Bay]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

This post is priceless.

The vast majority of the most respected universities in America don't even give athletic scholarships. None of the very most respected do except Stanford. The cream of America's universities collect Nobel Prize winners among their faculty, and keep track of who has how many, like you collect BYU football pom poms. The winner of a football conference or even a national championship is quickly forgotten, but the enlightened world, and history, remembers Nobel Prize winners in science, economics, medicine and even literature as blessing mankind into countless future generations.

Right...name 1 Nobel prize winner from Harvard, Yale, NYU, and Princeton.

I don't think it would take much to find someone that could tell you which Universities, say... Grossman, Brady, Flutie, and Marino played for.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

It's not irrelevant at all, and your example is silly and inapposite. Schools like Michigan, Illinios, UCLA and others that are uppermost tier in both academics and athletics debate internally and soul search all the time about achieving a proper balance, and the negative impact of big time sports on a university's real mission. There is even a great deal of internal tension sometimes errupting into civil war

... characterized by lingering Nerd resentment at being mocked by the Jocks.

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

The fact is, apart from morality, the really big money and name recognition comes for academic and research superstardom, not athletics. The academic administrators and academic superstars are the center of the universe at any respected university. Athletics, in terms of even dollars, is a flea on the hound's rump. In fact, private schools like Georgetown, Stanford and Duke generally are very candid about thier ambivalence about being even associated with big-time athletics, and generally publically rationalize that it helps raise money and attract applications from desireable students.

So your question is really more about money than prestige.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Tex

... characterized by lingering Nerd resentment at being mocked by the Jocks.



So your question is really more about money than prestige.

Greater prestige from greater academic distinction compared to football distinction is a given. Harvard is more prestigious than Florida. Is there any doubt about that?

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by Black Diamond Bay

Right...name 1 Nobel prize winner from Harvard, Yale, NYU, and Princeton.

I don't think it would take much to find someone that could tell you which Universities, say... Grossman, Brady, Flutie, and Marino played for.

Mohammed Yunus is cool, but he went to Vanderbilt, not the Ivies.

I guess he wanted to go to a school that tailgated.

[Colly Wolly]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

It's not irrelevant at all, and your example is silly and inapposite. Schools like Michigan, Illinios, UCLA and others that are uppermost tier in both academics and athletics debate internally and soul search all the time about achieving a proper balance, and the negative impact of big time sports on a university's real mission. There is even a great deal of internal tension sometimes errupting into civil war, but the contest is never close when this happens. See the fates of Tarkanian, Woody Hayes, Frank Kush, Jim Herrick and scores of other erstwhile untouchables who even slightly embarrased their universities; see also, the NCAA, a creature of university administrators.

The fact is, apart from morality, the really big money and name recognition comes for academic and research superstardom, not athletics. The academic administrators and academic superstars are the center of the universe at any respected university. Athletics, in terms of even dollars, is a flea on the hound's rump. In fact, private schools like Georgetown, Stanford and Duke generally are very candid about thier ambivalence about being even associated with big-time athletics, and generally publically rationalize that it helps raise money and attract applications from desireable students.

You're a nerd.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Colly Wolly

You're a nerd.

Don't you have some more toilets to scrub today? Better get to it.

[cougjunkie]

So basically you are asking who on this board would rather watch a football game, and who would rather watch gay dudes in tights without shirts?

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Nonsense. You can argue that the peace category (one of six) is controversial, but to say that the prizes are meaningless is absurd.

Guilt by association.

[creekster]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

CAUTION: Your answer to this question will forever mark you in my eyes as a dipshit or somebody I may want to have a beer with someday.

Man, the presure to get this correct is almost too much to take!