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fusnik11 · 08-10-2005, 05:19 PM

'and i will put emnity between thee and the woman, and between they seed and her seed; it shall bruise they head, and thou shalt bruise his heel'

the woman in this scripture is mary since only mary has her own seed...is that correct or am i reading this wrong?

Archaea · 08-10-2005, 05:33 PM

one is prophetic, speaking of Christ, other is speaks to life itself, as every time life is born acording to Father's plan, it defeats satan's purpose.

It also speaks to many other things, such as satan having no power unless given to him by the seed.

fusnik11 · 08-10-2005, 07:03 PM

so the bruise they heel part is not talking of christ but of all of us?

who is talking here, is it jehovah or the father?

Archaea · 08-10-2005, 07:19 PM

the Father is speaking when it refers to Christ,

Christ is speaking when it refers to humanity

fusnik11 · 08-10-2005, 08:30 PM

2 person dialogue huh....

so when the father talks of emnity between specifically between us, and between jesus does he specify jesus because the emnit will be greater between him and temptation?

or am i looking into this way more than i should?

i just read the verse in church the other day and didnt realize that the scripture read such that it implied mary...i always thought he was referring to eve....

furthermore how does this tie into the adam-god theory? :wink:

08-10-2005, 05:19 PM	#1
fusnik11 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,506	genesis 3:15.... 'and i will put emnity between thee and the woman, and between they seed and her seed; it shall bruise they head, and thou shalt bruise his heel' the woman in this scripture is mary since only mary has her own seed...is that correct or am i reading this wrong?

08-10-2005, 05:33 PM	#2
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	Look at it at multiple levels one is prophetic, speaking of Christ, other is speaks to life itself, as every time life is born acording to Father's plan, it defeats satan's purpose. It also speaks to many other things, such as satan having no power unless given to him by the seed.

08-10-2005, 07:19 PM	#4
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	depends on which level the Father is speaking when it refers to Christ, Christ is speaking when it refers to humanity

08-10-2005, 07:03 PM	#3
fusnik11 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,506	so the bruise they heel part is not talking of christ but of all of us? who is talking here, is it jehovah or the father?

08-10-2005, 08:30 PM	#5
fusnik11 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,506	2 person dialogue huh.... so when the father talks of emnity between specifically between us, and between jesus does he specify jesus because the emnit will be greater between him and temptation? or am i looking into this way more than i should? i just read the verse in church the other day and didnt realize that the scripture read such that it implied mary...i always thought he was referring to eve.... furthermore how does this tie into the adam-god theory? :wink: