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MikeWaters · 02-21-2014, 02:49 PM

Finally win a big game.

Defense was much better this game. Limited penetration. Didn't let David Stockton freelance in the lane. Didn't give up as many open 3's. And when Gonzaga did have open 3's they didn't knock them down. Our big also did a much better job in this game.

Who would have expected Anson Winder to lead all scorers for BYU and not miss a free throw? Contributions all around. They finally look like a team that wants to win.

Kyle Collinsworth was also huge this game. He's starting to fulfill my early season predictions.

So I guess Lunardi has BYU as among the last 4 in. No guarantees. They need to win out in conference. I think they also probably need to get to the title game of the tourney (long odds on that given BYU's history in conference tourneys).

Archaea · 02-21-2014, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Finally win a big game.

Defense was much better this game. Limited penetration. Didn't let David Stockton freelance in the lane. Didn't give up as many open 3's. And when Gonzaga did have open 3's they didn't knock them down. Our big also did a much better job in this game.

Who would have expected Anson Winder to lead all scorers for BYU and not miss a free throw? Contributions all around. They finally look like a team that wants to win.

Kyle Collinsworth was also huge this game. He's starting to fulfill my early season predictions.

So I guess Lunardi has BYU as among the last 4 in. No guarantees. They need to win out in conference. I think they also probably need to get to the title game of the tourney (long odds on that given BYU's history in conference tourneys).

Good win.

Rose is showing some savvy in shuffling his line up. Letting Sharpe get the early fouls to save Mika worked well.

Maybe you've changed your position on Winder's ability to contribute and to defend?

It was great that Winder went 10 for 10 from the FT line.

MikeWaters · 02-21-2014, 07:30 PM

I watched the game very quickly, fast-forwarding. So I missed some of the action.

I think Winder has shown some utility and moxy and deserves to take some minutes away from the accountant.

MikeWaters · 02-21-2014, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I think Winder has shown some utility and moxy and deserves to take some minutes away from the accountant.

This is as close as you will ever get to me saying that I was wrong and you were right.

Snowcat · 02-21-2014, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I watched the game very quickly, fast-forwarding. So I missed some of the action.

I think Winder has shown some utility and moxy and deserves to take some minutes away from the accountant.

And he plays some defense.

MikeWaters · 02-21-2014, 10:40 PM

Our real defensive problem is when we force Haws to guard small forwards and power forwards. Esp. when Haws is down at the baseline on the zone.

Also our bonehead doubleteam handoffs on zone defense leading to wide open 3s. Didn't happen in this game as much.

Archaea · 02-22-2014, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Our real defensive problem is when we force Haws to guard small forwards and power forwards. Esp. when Haws is down at the baseline on the zone.

Also our bonehead doubleteam handoffs on zone defense leading to wide open 3s. Didn't happen in this game as much.

Haws has Jimmer syndrome, he forgets there are two ends of the court.

Archaea · 02-24-2014, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

This is as close as you will ever get to me saying that I was wrong and you were right.

Others seem to be noticing now.

Anson Winder is number one in WCC in offensive efficiency.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/sta...2013-2014&min=

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All in all, as you can see, this season has been quite the winding road for the aptly-named junior shooting guard. It seems Winder deserves a ton of credit for staying mentally prepared and positive enough, through it all, to be ready to help his team out when it needed him most.
Winder had many reasons and opportunities to hang his head or throw in the towel this season but he didn’t. It’s a nice lesson and example in perseverance and character.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...iley.html?pg=2

Snowcat · 02-25-2014, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Also our bonehead doubleteam handoffs on zone defense leading to wide open 3s. Didn't happen in this game as much.

Based on the past two games, it looks like they are getting better at this.

MikeWaters · 02-25-2014, 04:28 AM

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Based on the past two games, it looks like they are getting better at this.

I agree. If just Josh Sharp improves his rotation that would be huge. He's dumb as a rock when it comes to defense.

02-21-2014, 02:49 PM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	vs. Gonzaga at Provo Finally win a big game. Defense was much better this game. Limited penetration. Didn't let David Stockton freelance in the lane. Didn't give up as many open 3's. And when Gonzaga did have open 3's they didn't knock them down. Our big also did a much better job in this game. Who would have expected Anson Winder to lead all scorers for BYU and not miss a free throw? Contributions all around. They finally look like a team that wants to win. Kyle Collinsworth was also huge this game. He's starting to fulfill my early season predictions. So I guess Lunardi has BYU as among the last 4 in. No guarantees. They need to win out in conference. I think they also probably need to get to the title game of the tourney (long odds on that given BYU's history in conference tourneys).

02-21-2014, 07:30 PM	#3
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I watched the game very quickly, fast-forwarding. So I missed some of the action. I think Winder has shown some utility and moxy and deserves to take some minutes away from the accountant.

02-21-2014, 10:40 PM	#6
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Our real defensive problem is when we force Haws to guard small forwards and power forwards. Esp. when Haws is down at the baseline on the zone. Also our bonehead doubleteam handoffs on zone defense leading to wide open 3s. Didn't happen in this game as much.