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SeattleUte · 12-09-2007, 10:27 PM

I love this:

“J.F.K.’s speech was to reassure Americans that he wasn’t a religious fanatic,” Mr. Krakauer agreed. “Mitt’s was to tell evangelical Christians, ‘I’m a religious fanatic just like you.’”

Hee hee. Brilliant.

MikeWaters · 12-09-2007, 10:32 PM

Has there ever been a more ignorant self-proclaimed expert on Mormons than Krakauer? I'm lumping in every one who has ever lived in there.

Going to K. to understand Mormonism would be like the Seahawks hiring SU as their general manager.

il Padrino Ute · 12-09-2007, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Has there ever been a more ignorant self-proclaimed expert on Mormons than Krakauer? I'm lumping in every one who has ever lived in there.

Going to K. to understand Mormonism would be like the Seahawks hiring SU as their general manager.

I agree. Krakauer is a Mormon ignoramus. Though I would say that Krakauer being an expert about Mormons is more like exUte being asked to explain why God cares about BYU football.

SeattleUte · 12-09-2007, 10:51 PM

Krakauer has written a book on Mormonism issued by a major publisher. He has the credential the world recoginizes for expertise.

il Padrino Ute · 12-09-2007, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Krakauer has written a book on Mormonism issued by a major publisher. He has the credential the world recoginizes for expertise.

You are intentionally ignoring that opinion and fact are two different things.

woot · 12-09-2007, 10:56 PM

So who would you guys recommend? It seems that even Bushman tends to put a positive spin on things. I haven't read Krakauer's book and have no intention of doing so, but it's probably safe to assume that he puts a negative spin on things. I don't think it's possible to find an authoritative and unbiased treatment of something like this.

MikeWaters · 12-09-2007, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Krakauer has written a book on Mormonism issued by a major publisher. He has the credential the world recoginizes for expertise.

actually what he has is the viewpoint that certain elites crave.

as much as you hate Mormonism, you couldn't get it wrong like Krakauer.

SeattleUte · 12-09-2007, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by woot

So who would you guys recommend? It seems that even Bushman tends to put a positive spin on things. I haven't read Krakauer's book and have no intention of doing so, but it's probably safe to assume that he puts a negative spin on things. I don't think it's possible to find an authoritative and unbiased treatment of something like this.

I've seen some here calling Bushman an apostate.

il Padrino Ute · 12-09-2007, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by woot

So who would you guys recommend? It seems that even Bushman tends to put a positive spin on things. I haven't read Krakauer's book and have no intention of doing so, but it's probably safe to assume that he puts a negative spin on things. I don't think it's possible to find an authoritative and unbiased treatment of something like this.

It's not so much that Krakauer puts a negative spin, but that he tries to pass off his opinion as fact.

MikeWaters · 12-09-2007, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by woot

So who would you guys recommend? It seems that even Bushman tends to put a positive spin on things. I haven't read Krakauer's book and have no intention of doing so, but it's probably safe to assume that he puts a negative spin on things. I don't think it's possible to find an authoritative and unbiased treatment of something like this.

it's not so much that he puts a negative spin on things (which he does) , but it's that he fundamentally misunderstands Mormons and Mormonism.

He has done the intellectual equivalent of SU's favorite trick--read only the review and claim to have read the book. And hope no one notices.

12-09-2007, 10:27 PM	#11
SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	I love this: “J.F.K.’s speech was to reassure Americans that he wasn’t a religious fanatic,” Mr. Krakauer agreed. “Mitt’s was to tell evangelical Christians, ‘I’m a religious fanatic just like you.’” Hee hee. Brilliant. __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster

12-09-2007, 10:51 PM	#14
SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	Krakauer has written a book on Mormonism issued by a major publisher. He has the credential the world recoginizes for expertise. __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster

12-09-2007, 10:32 PM	#12
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Has there ever been a more ignorant self-proclaimed expert on Mormons than Krakauer? I'm lumping in every one who has ever lived in there. Going to K. to understand Mormonism would be like the Seahawks hiring SU as their general manager.

12-09-2007, 10:56 PM	#16
woot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Denver Posts: 1,502	So who would you guys recommend? It seems that even Bushman tends to put a positive spin on things. I haven't read Krakauer's book and have no intention of doing so, but it's probably safe to assume that he puts a negative spin on things. I don't think it's possible to find an authoritative and unbiased treatment of something like this.