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Old 07-26-2006, 05:18 AM   #1
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I just read an interesting post about Landis being raised as a Mennonite. I didn't know this, but apparently Mennonites don't recite the pledge of allegiance or put their hands on their hearts for the national anthem.

Although Landis apparently does not practice anymore, he declined to cover his heart during the anthem. I didn't watch -- did anybody who watched notice?

http://hugoboy.typepad.com/hugo_schw...landis_st.html
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He didn't, but it seems that very few professional athletes do these days. He quietly stood on the podium.
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Mennonites don't believe in wearing shorts either.

Landis' is a great story about breaking free from a stultifying religion to find athletic and financial success.

Something tells me this will not resonate particularly well with Mormons. Or Mennonites.
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Mennonites don't believe in wearing shorts either.

Landis' is a great story about breaking free from a stultifying religion to find athletic and financial success.

Something tells me this will not resonate particularly well with Mormons. Or Mennonites.
Why? I don't get the Mormon comment.
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The idea of leaving ones religion that emphasizes family and the simple life, for wordly success, is not a theme that particularly resonates with me (or most other Mormons I think).

I'm sure there are others on this board that will love the backstory.
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The idea of leaving ones religion that emphasizes family and the simple life, for wordly success, is not a theme that particularly resonates with me (or most other Mormons I think).

I'm sure there are others on this board that will love the backstory.
"Family and the simple life" and "worldly success" may be mutually exclusive for certain Mennonite sects, but don't seem to be for Mormons.

Even so, I suspect most members of religious groups like Mormons or Mennonites would view one of their members who had found worldly success by violating some the group's tenents as having "sold his/her soul to the devil," and then return to their simple lives.

I see Mormons as much more pliable in these matters. Sunday play comes to mind.
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how right you are. I know many Mormon men that work in jobs that prevent them from spending anytime with their families. Almost to the point where it prevents them from having time-consuming callings as well.

I'm not sure it should be considered as virtuous as some of us now consider it.
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how right you are. I know many Mormon men that work in jobs that prevent them from spending anytime with their families. Almost to the point where it prevents them from having time-consuming callings as well.

I'm not sure it should be considered as virtuous as some of us now consider it.
I'm seeing your point. We try to walk the tightrope on this one. We seem to value and revel in worldly success but still want to emphasize the importance of the family. Generally speaking, these may be mutually exclusive concepts. When living in Tokyo I was amazed at how many members of the English-Speaking Stake's High Council, all of them extremely temporally successful, were in Tokyo alone while their families lived back in the U.S. This had been going on for years. They seemed to have missed the point. I'm sure they would tell a different story.
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