The biggest problem with the healthcare reform

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by Tex

If, after all the evidence to the contrary, you think public support for this bill is "about right", then no evidence will ever be good enough.

For something as contentious as health care, yes. Any health care bill will be divisive (because opinions are scattered all over the place on the best way forward). To secure about 40% of the public even after all the lies Republicans have told about the bill isn't bad. Especially since much of the opposition (about 25% of it if polls are to be believed) comes from the left. If you move the bill more to the right, more on the left would oppose it. If you move the bill more to the left, more on the right will oppose it. Given that the left and right are almost equally split in general in the US, getting 40% on board with any proposal is pretty darned good.

As far as I'm concerned, you live in a parallel universe.

Again being rude.

I did not like the Medicare ram-through. But you are changing the subject.

No, just pointing out the inconsistency of the Republican position.

I know you are. You are one of those people who would abuse power when handed it.

Again being rude.

The answer to your former question is no, because I still happen to love my country, and I think this health care bill would be bad for it.

So even if the bill was very popular, you would vote against it because "you love your country." YOU wouldn't require yourself to follow the polls. Why, then, can you not understand someone voting for the bill now regardless of public sentiment (which isn't even all that bad)?

Contrary to numerous Bush Derangement Syndrome-afflicted liberals (such as yourself), I do not root for the country to fail so that my political wishes can succeed.

Again being rude.

Politically, I'm not sure it matters much at this point anyway. Health care has become a symbol of failure for the Obama admin in the mind of the public, and even if they manage to squeak something through, it will be totally anti-climactic. Scott Brown has given the momentum to the R's, at least for the moment.

If you don't think it matters politically to pass the bill, why did you cite the polls in the first place as a reason Democrats shouldn't pass it?