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MikeWaters · 05-01-2006, 02:45 PM

Got a check from the ward for summercamp.

Remaining scouting budget and young men's budget for 2006: $-200 (yes, you read that right, a deficit).

Assistant Scoutmasters: 0.

Success rate in recruiting Assistant Scoutmasters: 0% (0/2)

Mormon Red Death · 05-01-2006, 02:51 PM

Don't the kids have to put anything in for scout camp? they do in my neck of the woods. you can do fundraisers (phone books eehhhhhh)

bluegoose · 05-01-2006, 06:07 PM

we always required a small down payment by the kids families, mainly just to show that they were serious about going. Something like $25-50 per boy.

We always had 2 separate accounts - one for YM and one for other/scouting. That was basically our scout camp fund. Easier to keep records that way.

I assume you'll be doing some fundraisers???

MikeWaters · 05-01-2006, 06:09 PM

we required $25/boy. We have 4 boys going.

In covering the costs, with only 4 boys going, we depleted the scout fund ($500) as well as the young men's budget (less than $250).

They covered my costs as well.

Parrot Head · 05-01-2006, 06:13 PM

Mike, I've been wanting to throw this out a while... does your company/institution/whatever have employee service project benefits? When I was at Safeco, they would match me hour-for-hour or something like that for community-related service activities. Can you use that to only use half your vacation days as needed for campouts?

Also, it seems like the Church has gotten away from fundraisers for scouts lately, which irritates me. It creates a greater haves/have-nots situation or it forces the ward to subsidize scouts more heavily. Make the boys work a little!

The YW have been notorous for ward-subsidized fundraisers in my last few wards. THey have "spaghetti bizarres" (on St. Patty's Day for crying out loud) or some crap like that where they make a luxurious meal of noodles and sauce, get others in the ward to donate service such as cakes or cookies and then expect those same people to bid in auction on others' donated crap. It's basically a roundabout way of just getting the people in the ward that don't have kids or have fewer to pay for the YW to go to camp. And then it's the leaders that do most of the work. I boycott those by staying at home and watching TV.

Mormon Red Death · 05-01-2006, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Parrot Head

Mike, I've been wanting to throw this out a while... does your company/institution/whatever have employee service project benefits? When I was at Safeco, they would match me hour-for-hour or something like that for community-related service activities. Can you use that to only use half your vacation days as needed for campouts?

GM and Ford (if someone in ward works there) have some plan where they give money to the scouts based on the employees volunteering. For example, in my ward we had a bishop and YM president who worked for GM we were eligible for something like $300 for scouts.

MikeWaters · 05-01-2006, 06:23 PM

i basically work for a charity myself (public hospital). i doubt they give money to anyone else. or provide for any benefits. starting in July i work for the state of Texas.

bluegoose · 05-01-2006, 07:34 PM

Its worth looking into.

The military has a similar program. When I lived in Nebraska, several of the YM leaders were officers. They never had to use personal time for scout camp or temple trips, as it came out of some bank of service hours they had access to.

And yes, Parrot Head, nothing tastes quite as good as a $35 Betty Crocker chocolate cake.

MikeWaters · 05-01-2006, 08:11 PM

just checked with my new employer. No service benefits.

05-01-2006, 02:45 PM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Update on the Troop... Got a check from the ward for summercamp. Remaining scouting budget and young men's budget for 2006: $-200 (yes, you read that right, a deficit). Assistant Scoutmasters: 0. Success rate in recruiting Assistant Scoutmasters: 0% (0/2)

05-01-2006, 02:51 PM	#2
Mormon Red Death Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Clinton Township, MI Posts: 3,126	Don't the kids have to put anything in for scout camp? they do in my neck of the woods. you can do fundraisers (phone books eehhhhhh) __________________ Its all about the suit

05-01-2006, 06:13 PM	#5
Parrot Head Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 763	Mike, I've been wanting to throw this out a while... does your company/institution/whatever have employee service project benefits? When I was at Safeco, they would match me hour-for-hour or something like that for community-related service activities. Can you use that to only use half your vacation days as needed for campouts? Also, it seems like the Church has gotten away from fundraisers for scouts lately, which irritates me. It creates a greater haves/have-nots situation or it forces the ward to subsidize scouts more heavily. Make the boys work a little! The YW have been notorous for ward-subsidized fundraisers in my last few wards. THey have "spaghetti bizarres" (on St. Patty's Day for crying out loud) or some crap like that where they make a luxurious meal of noodles and sauce, get others in the ward to donate service such as cakes or cookies and then expect those same people to bid in auction on others' donated crap. It's basically a roundabout way of just getting the people in the ward that don't have kids or have fewer to pay for the YW to go to camp. And then it's the leaders that do most of the work. I boycott those by staying at home and watching TV. __________________ Oh, he's very popular Ed. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, dickheads - they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude. - Bronco, when asked how to describe PH

05-01-2006, 06:07 PM	#3
bluegoose Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,919	we always required a small down payment by the kids families, mainly just to show that they were serious about going. Something like $25-50 per boy. We always had 2 separate accounts - one for YM and one for other/scouting. That was basically our scout camp fund. Easier to keep records that way. I assume you'll be doing some fundraisers???

05-01-2006, 06:09 PM	#4
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	we required $25/boy. We have 4 boys going. In covering the costs, with only 4 boys going, we depleted the scout fund ($500) as well as the young men's budget (less than $250). They covered my costs as well.

05-01-2006, 06:23 PM	#7
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	i basically work for a charity myself (public hospital). i doubt they give money to anyone else. or provide for any benefits. starting in July i work for the state of Texas.

05-01-2006, 07:34 PM	#8
bluegoose Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,919	Its worth looking into. The military has a similar program. When I lived in Nebraska, several of the YM leaders were officers. They never had to use personal time for scout camp or temple trips, as it came out of some bank of service hours they had access to. And yes, Parrot Head, nothing tastes quite as good as a $35 Betty Crocker chocolate cake.

05-01-2006, 08:11 PM	#9
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	just checked with my new employer. No service benefits.