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ewth8tr · 07-21-2006, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by UteStar

Good for him to be willing to change it, but why on earth would Jefe not allow him to change it?

Jefe never said he wouldn't let him change, just that he was satisfied by his explanation for it's meaning and he would not force him to change it.

UtahDan · 07-21-2006, 10:16 PM

This discussion has got me thinking of our cold war strategy: nukes aimed at population centers. We did this to deter them from nuking us, but what if they had? What if Russia had nuked us? Would it be wrong to kill civilians by nuking them back? Would it only have been morally correct to nuke their military installations? Why is it moral to kill a soldier but not a civilian?

Not saying I know the answers, just wanting to here some of the rationales behind the statements.

il Padrino Ute · 07-22-2006, 04:36 PM

Unfortunately, wars are won by killing large numbers of people, not negotiation. And in war, it is even more unfortunate that the largest number of people being killed are civilians.

I don't believe it's moral to kill a soldier and immoral to kill a civilian. The difference is that it's more acceptable to kill a soldier because it's his job to put his life on the line at a time of war.

DirtyHippieUTE · 07-22-2006, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ewth8tr

Jefe never said he wouldn't let him change, just that he was satisfied by his explanation for it's meaning and he would not force him to change it.

I'm thinking I would change it if I were 187. How many times do you have to go thru the "your name is offensive" thing before you get tired. It's not like it's his family name or anything...

07-21-2006, 10:16 PM	#12
UtahDan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Bluth Home Posts: 3,877	This discussion has got me thinking of our cold war strategy: nukes aimed at population centers. We did this to deter them from nuking us, but what if they had? What if Russia had nuked us? Would it be wrong to kill civilians by nuking them back? Would it only have been morally correct to nuke their military installations? Why is it moral to kill a soldier but not a civilian? Not saying I know the answers, just wanting to here some of the rationales behind the statements. __________________ The Bible tells us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go. -Galileo

07-22-2006, 04:36 PM	#13
il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	Unfortunately, wars are won by killing large numbers of people, not negotiation. And in war, it is even more unfortunate that the largest number of people being killed are civilians. I don't believe it's moral to kill a soldier and immoral to kill a civilian. The difference is that it's more acceptable to kill a soldier because it's his job to put his life on the line at a time of war. __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.