Mother's day

[MikeWaters]

I wonder why we feel the need to talk about mothers as a subject of talks on mother's day. Why not labor on labor day? Or the presidents on president's day?

My talk on "how to get into college" was very secular. The talks on appreciating people with disabilities were fairly secular. Although both subjects are tied back into the gospel, somewhat.

What do you guys think of tackling the topics that sit on the secular/religious boundary?

[minn_stat]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I wonder why we feel the need to talk about mothers as a subject of talks on mother's day. Why not labor on labor day? Or the presidents on president's day?

You have a point, although most would argue that the sacred nature of motherhood gives it a status a bit higher than the others.

My personal peeve with Mother's day is the policy in most wards to give flowers or whatever to all women over the age of 18. It is not Women's day, it's Mother's day, and I really dislike the politically correct notion that we might offend someone by excluding them.

[marsupial]

Originally Posted by minn_stat

It is not Women's day, it's Mother's day, and I really dislike the politically correct notion that we might offend someone by excluding them.

You would not say this if you and your wife were having fertility problems.

[FMCoug]

Originally Posted by marsupial

You would not say this if you and your wife were having fertility problems.

Excellent point. In fact, this is a big issue with the glorification of Mother's on this day IMO. In our last ward, the Bishop was extremely sensitive to this as they were never able to have children of their own. They had 3 adopted children by the time I knew them but he said that in the many years when they had no children, Mother's Day was absolute torture for his wife.

He made it a point to choose the speakers and/or special musical numbers, etc. very carefully for this reason.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I wonder why we feel the need to talk about mothers as a subject of talks on mother's day. Why not labor on labor day? Or the presidents on president's day?

My talk on "how to get into college" was very secular. The talks on appreciating people with disabilities were fairly secular. Although both subjects are tied back into the gospel, somewhat.

What do you guys think of tackling the topics that sit on the secular/religious boundary?

There were 3 talks in Sacrament meeting today. The Youth speaker talked about her mom. The next speaker spoke about Motherhood....the final speaker spoke about the true nature of repentance and what is really required for it.

[DrumNFeather]

Originally Posted by minn_stat

My personal peeve with Mother's day is the policy in most wards to give flowers or whatever to all women over the age of 18. It is not Women's day, it's Mother's day, and I really dislike the politically correct notion that we might offend someone by excluding them.

Interesting that you bring this up.

In my ward, all of the talks were on womanhood and all that stuff...as though the focus was less on mothers and more on the role of women in the church and the importance of womanhood in general.

For the first time....ever, there was nothing provided for the mothers in the ward (perhaps to avoid that awkwardness of giving the married w/no kids or singles something).

[myboynoah]

So what is this? We've all become a bunch of communists? We can't honor anyone because someone else get their feelings hurt?

Reminds me of some members of the staff here. Every year we give out cash awards to exceptional performers. When we queried the staff for suggestions on how to make the awards program better, they came back pressing for equality (just divide the budgeted money up evenly).

We rejected that suggestion. The next year we presented awards to very deserving recipients, only to have one of the staff go to the big boss in tears over having not been recognized for her efforts during the year (they didn't rise to the same level of others). Pathetic.

What's wrong with honoring motherhood? We all have one, and shouldn't the day be about them and not us?

[Indy Coug]

What a bunch of women.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

What a bunch of women.

Can you please provide me the link where you brought up anal probing?

I thought that was odd.

[marsupial]

Originally Posted by myboynoah

So what is this? We've all become a bunch of communists? We can't honor anyone because someone else get their feelings hurt?

Reminds me of some members of the staff here. Every year we give out cash awards to exceptional performers. When we queried the staff for suggestions on how to make the awards program better, they came back pressing for equality (just divide the budgeted money up evenly).

We rejected that suggestion. The next year we presented awards to very deserving recipients, only to have one of the staff go to the big boss in tears over having not been recognized for her efforts during the year (they didn't rise to the same level of others). Pathetic.

What's wrong with honoring motherhood? We all have one, and shouldn't the day be about them and not us?

As a mother, I didn't feel any less valued just because the woman sitting on my row yesterday also received a flower even though she does not have children.

In Relief Society we talk a lot about having a mother's heart. Not all women can be mothers, but most women in the church long to be. The Primary is dominated by women as are daycares and elementary schools. What's wrong with celebrating women and their impact on children whether or not they've had their uterus stretched to make room for one of their own.