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MikeWaters · 07-02-2008, 07:41 PM

I wonder if part of it is in order to get press, and to help with missionary work.

To get kudos from those that are fiercely opposed to gay marriage.

Sort of a way of reaching out.

myboynoah · 07-02-2008, 07:51 PM

Or maybe it is trying to "out" Mormons that have sympathy for gay causes, kind of like the newspaper article. Then we can purge them. Did I say we? I mean "it."

Indy Coug · 07-02-2008, 08:06 PM

Waters' Razor: Whatever is the most convoluted and conspiratorial solution tends to be the correct one.

SeattleUte · 07-02-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I wonder if part of it is in order to get press, and to help with missionary work.

To get kudos from those that are fiercely opposed to gay marriage.

Sort of a way of reaching out.

The Church has no purpose at all if you remove its ultra-conservative social agenda. As it is they hardly talk about scripture or doctrine in Conference anymore. This is what gives them purpose and traction in real life.

All-American · 07-02-2008, 08:36 PM

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The Church has no purpose at all if you remove its ultra-conservative social agenda. As it is they hardly talk about scripture or doctrine in Conference anymore. This is what gives them purpose and traction in real life.

Really? Do you watch conference? Read the Ensign articles?

Or is this just what you remember from the October '78 session?

SeattleUte · 07-02-2008, 08:39 PM

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Really? Do you watch conference? Read the Ensign articles?

Or is this just what you remember from the October '78 session?

In 1978 there was a lot more talk about religion as such than now, and you know it. A while ago a picked up Hinkley's latest book, a big fat volume, couldn't find Nephite or Lamanite in the index.

All-American · 07-02-2008, 08:45 PM

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In 1978 there was a lot more talk about religion as such than now, and you know it. A while ago a picked up Hinkley's latest book, a big fat volume, couldn't find Nephite or Lamanite in the index.

Wait a minute-- you're telling me that a Hinckley book that was intended for a general audience wasn't saturated with Mormon-specific doctrine?

Answer the question, counselor. When is the last time you saw Conference or read the Conference report?

You haven't done so for decades, haven't you?

Indy Coug · 07-02-2008, 08:48 PM

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Wait a minute-- you're telling me that a Hinckley book that was intended for a general audience wasn't saturated with Mormon-specific doctrine?

Answer the question, counselor. When is the last time you saw Conference or read the Conference report?

You haven't done so for decades, haven't you?

I'd be curious to hear SU's take on Elder Holland's doctrinal talks given over the last 2 conferences. SU only has 15 minutes to respond, or it's a sign that he scrambled to read them so he could pretend he knew about them all along.

SeattleUte · 07-02-2008, 08:59 PM

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I'd be curious to hear SU's take on Elder Holland's doctrinal talks given over the last 2 conferences. SU only has 15 minutes to respond, or it's a sign that he scrambled to read them so he could pretend he knew about them all along.

I recall Holland as being the greatest LDS orator I ever heard except maybe Paul H. Dunn and Rex Lee. But he mostly talked aobut the Bible.

All-American · 07-02-2008, 09:09 PM

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I recall Holland as being the greatest LDS orator I ever heard except maybe Paul H. Dunn and Rex Lee. But he mostly talked aobut the Bible.

So you've got nothing to say about any General Conference you've seen in the last 20 years? You feel qualified enough to tell us about the doctrinal shifts the church has undergone based on thumbing through the index of one book?

How can you demand that the church own up to its mistakes when you won't own up to your own?

07-02-2008, 07:41 PM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	The purpose of the church fighting gay-marriage I wonder if part of it is in order to get press, and to help with missionary work. To get kudos from those that are fiercely opposed to gay marriage. Sort of a way of reaching out.

07-02-2008, 07:51 PM	#2
myboynoah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Memphis freakin' Tennessee!!!!! Posts: 4,530	Or maybe it is trying to "out" Mormons that have sympathy for gay causes, kind of like the newspaper article. Then we can purge them. Did I say we? I mean "it." __________________ Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!! Religion rises inevitably from our apprehension of our own death. To give meaning to meaninglessness is the endless quest of all religion. When death becomes the center of our consciousness, then religion authentically begins. Of all religions that I know, the one that most vehemently and persuasively defies and denies the reality of death is the original Mormonism of the Prophet, Seer and Revelator, Joseph Smith.

07-02-2008, 08:06 PM	#3
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	Waters' Razor: Whatever is the most convoluted and conspiratorial solution tends to be the correct one.