07-16-2007, 06:46 PM | #1 |
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Indy, don't get too upset about the complaining. I love church. I love BYU football too and always have. I just sometimes like to vent on things here and there, and anonymous online message boards are a decent place.
Topic was us misunderstanding Jesus. One comment was that if we were raised in hard ass Mormon homes, we might believe Jesus wants to judge and condemn us. This was quickly combatted with: "The way a lot of people I know misunderstand Jesus is to think he will love you no matter what. You can do anything and you'll be OK." This got kudos from the instructor and sparked several other comments of the same variety. Very sad. |
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It sounds as if both sides oversimplify the discussion. I would be out the door in nothing flat.
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Unconditional love and unconditional acceptance are two different things, however they seem to be used interchangeably on occassion. I think this is one of those times.
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She had a psychiatrist who said because I didn't trust the water system, the school system, the government, I was paranoid," he said. "I had a psychiatrist who said her psychiatrist was stupid." |
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07-16-2007, 07:06 PM | #6 |
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The point I find sad is that of the people in that room, your good wholesome church attending Utah county type...
99% have been more negatively affected in their lives by erring more on believing that Jesus is harsh and judgemental than by erring that he is forgiving and accepting. But the discussion went right past that and focused on the error of perceiving Jesus as too loving, which puts us in the comfortable position of wondering what's wrong with our less active and "sinning" neighbors or family members instead of focusing on ourselves. |
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She had a psychiatrist who said because I didn't trust the water system, the school system, the government, I was paranoid," he said. "I had a psychiatrist who said her psychiatrist was stupid." |
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As humans we want to punish or reward. Therefor the concept of "they" get hammered and "I" will be blessed is easier to deal with. |
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