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Indy Coug · 10-26-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by YOhio

Dennis Dodd brings up Crowton's role:

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegefoo...story/10422107

BTW, whose responsibility is it to call a timeout? Crowton's?

DJRoss · 10-26-2007, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by YOhio

It was a fun game to watch. QB had good protection, so no real risk of a sack.

What made that play was a DB who didn't turn around (Sound familiar?) Had the DB actually played as if the ball was going to his man, he would have knocked it away or even picked it off. However, he was just going through the motions here since why would the QB actually throw the ball that deep. He was tight on his man the entire way, and he blew it.

Crowton will continue to do this kind of craziness as he is continually being enabled in his behavior by getting hired by strong programs and pulling this stuff off in his rookie year with each program. The natives will get restless as LSU loses games they think they shouldn't and the Crowton Spiral will sink that ship as well.

Indy Coug · 10-26-2007, 06:24 PM

I get a kick out of how Crowton gets protrayed as some sort of Puppet Master that imposes his mercurial whims upon the invertebrate head coaches that were foolish enough to hire him.

Miles let the playcall go through. Miles was the one not calling timeout. He could have (should have?) done things differently but didn't.

HuskyFreeNorthwest · 10-26-2007, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I didn't watch the LSU vs. Auburn game, but a coworker told me all about it.

Apparently LSU, instead of playing conservatively with 16 sec and one timeout, and in FG range--on 3rd down, drops back in the pocket, throws a TD strike leaving 1 sec on the clock.

Now here is the deal: if the QB was sacked they would have probably lost the game, because the FG kicker didn't have a lot of range.

So apparently LSU fans were completely flabbergasted at the call. That they didn't position themselves for the chip-shot FG.

I just smiled and said "He'd rather win by 9 than 2."

There is just no way you can put that on Crowton. He is the OC, and Miles seems to love the attention of being the gambler. The HC makes those decisions not the OC. If Miles is letting Crowton make those decisions for him, then he (Miles) is a stupid as he is arrogant.

RockyBalboa · 10-26-2007, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest

There is just no way you can put that on Crowton. He is the OC, and Miles seems to love the attention of being the gambler. The HC makes those decisions not the OC. If Miles is letting Crowton make those decisions for him, then he (Miles) is a stupid as he is arrogant.

Agreed. Anyone who watched the LSU/Florida game saw how many times Miles gambled in that game. He's a coach that really likes to roll the dice.

Ace Tomato Co. · 10-26-2007, 07:27 PM

Crowton was probably thinking about the game against Boise State when Payne actually did miss the field goal. The play before Payne missed we ran it over to the center of the field. Didn't turn out so great.

Don't get me wrong; I'm not saying the BYU-BSU play calling or the LSU-Auburn play calling were wrong - I'm just pointing out that Crowton had seen the exact situation before, and it turned out to be an important situation.

Also, I agree with other sentiments that Miles is at least heavily involved in that decision at that point in the game.

DJRoss · 10-26-2007, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest

There is just no way you can put that on Crowton. He is the OC, and Miles seems to love the attention of being the gambler. The HC makes those decisions not the OC. If Miles is letting Crowton make those decisions for him, then he (Miles) is a stupid as he is arrogant.

his coaching behavio continues to be enable by those that hire him, he will continue to come up with this kind of craziness. Head coaches responsibility all the way here. I agree.

HuskyFreeNorthwest · 10-26-2007, 09:41 PM

I will say after watching the YouTube video posted here in the thread, it does not seem nearly as chaotic as it did live on Saturday night.

Also one thing that I whole heartedly disagree with the announcers on is there would have been at least one second left even had the ball been dropped. So they would have gotten a chance at the FG.

TheSizzle36 · 10-27-2007, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

In a way I miss that aspect of Crowton. Balls to the wall every play. However I think the problem was that Crowton led the charge only to glance back and find that no one else had followed him.

A quote about Crowton that I can agree with. Love him or hate him, I think about everybody can agree with this statement.

TheSizzle36 · 10-27-2007, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Agreed. Anyone who watched the LSU/Florida game saw how many times Miles gambled in that game. He's a coach that really likes to roll the dice.

Yup. And while Crowton surely has influence in those situations as to what he would suggest, ultimately the decision lies in the HC's hands.

10-26-2007, 07:27 PM	#16
Ace Tomato Co. Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 54	Remember Payne at BSU? Crowton was probably thinking about the game against Boise State when Payne actually did miss the field goal. The play before Payne missed we ran it over to the center of the field. Didn't turn out so great. Don't get me wrong; I'm not saying the BYU-BSU play calling or the LSU-Auburn play calling were wrong - I'm just pointing out that Crowton had seen the exact situation before, and it turned out to be an important situation. Also, I agree with other sentiments that Miles is at least heavily involved in that decision at that point in the game. __________________ "You're not gonna start humming the theme to Jeopardy are you?"

10-26-2007, 06:24 PM	#13
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	I get a kick out of how Crowton gets protrayed as some sort of Puppet Master that imposes his mercurial whims upon the invertebrate head coaches that were foolish enough to hire him. Miles let the playcall go through. Miles was the one not calling timeout. He could have (should have?) done things differently but didn't.

10-26-2007, 09:41 PM	#18
HuskyFreeNorthwest Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 280	I will say after watching the YouTube video posted here in the thread, it does not seem nearly as chaotic as it did live on Saturday night. Also one thing that I whole heartedly disagree with the announcers on is there would have been at least one second left even had the ball been dropped. So they would have gotten a chance at the FG.