Predict the allocation of humanity to the 3 degrees

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by Tex

Do you really consider this a serious response, or should I be looking for the Candid Camera people?

Just as serious as the rest of this conversation.

The scriptures say there will be innumerable people in the telestial. That's no more difficult to wrap our brains around then to say innumberable * 1,000 in the celestial is it?

IPU can check my math, but I think I have it right.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by jay santos

Just as serious as the rest of this conversation.

The scriptures say there will be innumerable people in the telestial. That's no more difficult to wrap our brains around then to say innumberable * 1,000 in the celestial is it?

IPU can check my math, but I think I have it right.

Heh, ok. Against my better judgment:

1. Doesn't "innumerable" by definition mean "too many to be numbered"? If it can't be numbered, how are you multiplying it by anything?
2. Where does this 1000 figure come from, and why are you trying to apply it to the celestial glory?
3. How does that "reduce" to 100/0/0? If I have 4 apples split 2/1/1 across 3 barrels, that doesn't mean 100% of my apples are in the 1st barrel.
4. What does any of this have to do with the doctrine?

Why do I get the feeling I'm wasting my time ....

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by Tex

Heh, ok. Against my better judgment:

1. Doesn't "innumerable" by definition mean "too many to be numbered"? If it can't be numbered, how are you multiplying it by anything?
2. Where does this 1000 figure come from, and why are you trying to apply it to the celestial glory?
3. How does that "reduce" to 100/0/0? If I have 4 apples split 2/1/1 across 3 barrels, that doesn't mean 100% of my apples are in the 1st barrel.
4. What does any of this have to do with the doctrine?

Why do I get the feeling I'm wasting my time ....

1-3. Check out infinity mathematics

You're wasting your time shutting up heaven for people (Matt 23:13). I'd recommend you cut out that practice.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by jay santos

1-3. Check out infinity mathematics

Infinity mathematics != scripture or doctrine.

Originally Posted by jay santos

You're wasting your time shutting up heaven for people (Matt 23:13). I'd recommend you cut out that practice.

Cf above post about personal attacks.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by Tex

Of course degree matters. Don't we have three "degrees" of glory? Does not the telestial glory consist of varying degrees "as one star differs from another star in glory"? Do we not read that the celestial glory there are three heavens or "degrees"?

As with santos, you appear to have a fundamental misconception of the differences between terrestrial and telestial glories.

My conception of terr/tel is that they are concepts with a purpose, ala DC19.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

What a fruitless exercise mortality is. Based on the above comments, I should just wax myself and my family and move on to the more important things since our exaltation is already assured.

I don't think most people would do this, even if they believed it.
People who do extreme things have severe problems. Most people don't have severe problems.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by Tex

So maybe we should discard section 76 and 88, and go with the old Christian heaven/hell paradigm, eh?

No, even better.

[JohnnyLingo]

Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo

Santos, assuming you aren't being facetious about your 100% comment, what about agency?

There are plenty of people who don't WANT to go to the highest level of the CK. Plenty of people who would be just fine with living in the Telestial or Terrestrial kingdoms.

Will God force them to become like Him if they aren't willing to change?

Hey, santos? Did you get around to answering my post or do you have me on ignore?

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by JohnnyLingo

Hey, santos? Did you get around to answering my post or do you have me on ignore?

He's too busy trying to explain the mathematics behind orders of infinity.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

He's too busy trying to explain the mathematics behind orders of infinity.

Heh. Innumerable = zero.

Wonder how far that would've gotten me in my collegiate math classes.