Okay defenders of Hawaii in the BCS

[Judge Smails]

Originally Posted by Tex

I wonder if we'd be having this conversation if it had been Hawaii vs. Illinois.

This looks more like a monologue until now. Then again, I'm not sure what the Rainbow Warrior defenders can say.

To answer your question, I figure Hawaii would have lost by 14-17 to Illinois, and looked bad, but not atrocious, so yes we'd be having the conversation, but it probably wouldn't be such a slam dunk for the anti-Hawaii position.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Judge Smails

This looks more like a monologue until now. Then again, I'm not sure what the Rainbow Warrior defenders can say.

To answer your question, I figure Hawaii would have lost by 14-17 to Illinois, and looked bad, but not atrocious, so yes we'd be having the conversation, but it probably wouldn't be such a slam dunk for the anti-Hawaii position.

I don't think a 14-17 loss to Illinois would in any way enhance the "do they deserve to be there" question. The only reason the question is resurging is because of their abysmal performance against an obviously superior team.

By the way, I'm not a Hawaii defender. I am tickled they got embarrassed, though I hate that they inextricably smear the non-BCS crowd in the process. But given the performance of Illinois, and to a lesser degree Oklahoma, there isn't a lot to be said for the quality of the BCS selection to begin with. If you're gonna wring hands over one, you gotta do it over the other as well.