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danimal · 01-19-2008, 03:29 AM

Apparently those who think of Romney as a "flip-flopper" have an anti-mormon bias.

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/news/relea...as-finds-cover

myboynoah · 01-19-2008, 10:25 AM

That doesn't surprise me. If one listens to Evangelical conservatives on call-in radio they usually dismiss Romney as a flip-flopper who can't be trusted. It sounds like it is the politically correct code for "Mormon".

The big question is whether or not these types of Evangelicals would hold their noses and turn out in the general election for Romney. Most that called into the local radio show yesterday featuring your old SP said they would.

danimal · 01-19-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by myboynoah

That doesn't surprise me. If one listens to Evangelical conservatives on call-in radio they usually dismiss Romney as a flip-flopper who can't be trusted. It sounds like it is the politically correct code for "Mormon".

The big question is whether or not these types of Evangelicals would hold their noses and turn out in the general election for Romney. Most that called into the local radio show yesterday featuring your old SP said they would.

HOw did McBride do?

myboynoah · 01-19-2008, 02:10 PM

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HOw did McBride do?

He did well, but I would have answered some questions differently. I felt for him because the topic was Mitt and Mormonism and he had to make sure he separated the two issues, not an easy task since the host kept linking them. He did well in that respect, although I wished he would have noted that Harry Reid is Mormon as well. There were some kooky questions and some standard Mormonism challenge questions from the callers (the one I remember was about "not adding to this book" in Revelations). He gave the standard textbook answers; I would have prefered something a little more substantial, but considering the audience, maybe textbook was best.

The best question came from a guy that asked about Mormon belief that the constitution is inspired of God. Pres McBride said, yes, we do believe that. The caller then said that given Mormon reverence for the constitution, Mormons should support a strict constitutionalist like Ron Paul. A very nice diversion.

I don't know Pres McBride very well, but I do home teach his daughter (and husband and baby). He seems like a really good guy.

In opining that I would have answered some questions differently, my wife told me not to speak ill of the Lords annointed. I think she's a strict constitutionalist.

Tex · 01-19-2008, 04:07 PM

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The best question came from a guy that asked about Mormon belief that the constitution is inspired of God. Pres McBride said, yes, we do believe that. The caller then said that given Mormon reverence for the constitution, Mormons should support a strict constitutionalist like Ron Paul. A very nice diversion.

The Ron Paul nuts are everywhere. I'm beginning to wonder if there has been a smaller more vocal minority in the history politics.

SeattleUte · 01-19-2008, 04:26 PM

In fairness, fundies are more acutely aware of the flip-flopping because he overhauled his beliefs to pander to them. So, when someone says to a fundie, "But he doesn't like gays," the natural reply is, "But he used to."

myboynoah · 01-19-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

In fairness, fundies are more acutely aware of the flip-flopping because he overhauled his beliefs to pander to them. So, when someone says to a fundie, "But he doesn't like gays," the natural reply is, "But he used to."

So this bunch that believes repentance turns on a dime prohibits someone from changing some views held over 10 years ago. I suspect if it were someone from their own tribe, they'd be much more charitable in their acceptance. Indeed, their own candidate has taken some 180s recently.

Politicians flip-flop; its the nature of the game. Things change, they change, you changed.

myboynoah · 01-19-2008, 05:41 PM

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The Ron Paul nuts are everywhere. I'm beginning to wonder if there has been a smaller more vocal minority in the history politics.

For being a nut he was the best spoken of all the callers and his delivery of his point was excellent. I didn't do it justice.

Tex · 01-19-2008, 06:05 PM

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For being a nut he was the best spoken of all the callers and his delivery of his point was excellent. I didn't do it justice.

Good for him. I'm sure he has some cogent followers; just not the one's I've encountered. What stuns me is how many of them there are.

01-19-2008, 03:29 AM	#1
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01-19-2008, 10:25 AM	#2
myboynoah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Memphis freakin' Tennessee!!!!! Posts: 4,530	That doesn't surprise me. If one listens to Evangelical conservatives on call-in radio they usually dismiss Romney as a flip-flopper who can't be trusted. It sounds like it is the politically correct code for "Mormon". The big question is whether or not these types of Evangelicals would hold their noses and turn out in the general election for Romney. Most that called into the local radio show yesterday featuring your old SP said they would. __________________ Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!! Religion rises inevitably from our apprehension of our own death. To give meaning to meaninglessness is the endless quest of all religion. When death becomes the center of our consciousness, then religion authentically begins. Of all religions that I know, the one that most vehemently and persuasively defies and denies the reality of death is the original Mormonism of the Prophet, Seer and Revelator, Joseph Smith.

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SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	In fairness, fundies are more acutely aware of the flip-flopping because he overhauled his beliefs to pander to them. So, when someone says to a fundie, "But he doesn't like gays," the natural reply is, "But he used to." __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster