The story on Craig Jessop

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by Tex

I don't care if he reveals his "source" or not. It's just kinda funny what juicy little rumors we like to spread around, if we can make our pet disfavored apostle look bad.

It's almost as if no one has ever played the phone game before.

If the story is true, does it bother you? If it doesn't, then you must have reached the conclusion it doesn't make anyone look bad.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

If the story is true, does it bother you? If it doesn't, then you must have reached the conclusion it doesn't make anyone look bad.

After these many months of reading posts by Tex, I think what would make him happy is if you ever say anything critical of "one" of the brethern, you follow it up with saying nice things about "five" of the brethern.

Even if it doesn't make him happy, maybe it would slow his "all CG does is attack the brethern" posts.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

If the story is true, does it bother you? If it doesn't, then you must have reached the conclusion it doesn't make anyone look bad.

What part? The "I think it might be..." or the "I'm not sure..."? Or the "a friend of a friend of a friend" perhaps? Maybe you could share a good Three Nephite story with us too.

Sarcasm aside, there's always more to these stories, and you have about 3% of this one in your post. Even honest, professional journalists who actually name their sources get stuff wrong, sometimes very wrong. I'm inclined to give both Jessop and Packer (the next man in line to lead the church, lest we forget) the benefit of the doubt.

I don't even mind that the apostles' human frailties are occasionally exposed. They are human after all. It's the glee that some folks take in it that really bugs.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by Tex

What part? The "I think it might be..." or the "I'm not sure..."? Or the "a friend of a friend of a friend" perhaps? Maybe you could share a good Three Nephite story with us too.

Sarcasm aside, there's always more to these stories, and you have about 3% of this one in your post. Even honest, professional journalists who actually name their sources get stuff wrong, sometimes very wrong. I'm inclined to give both Jessop and Packer (the next man in line to lead the church, lest we forget) the benefit of the doubt.

I don't even mind that the apostles' human frailties are occasionally exposed. They are human after all. It's the glee that some folks take in it that really bugs.

I take no glee from seeing the apostles have human frailties. I don't think you have accused me personally of this by the way.

There are those who believe their words should be followed straight down the line. There are even those that think their words should be taken as commandment. Personally, I am OK with that if that person wants to take the words that way for them.

What really bugs me is when these people start trying to push their belief system in that regard on me. It is not enough for them to say, I don't agree with you. You probably won't believe some of the responses I have had to my statement, "the bretherns words are counsel, not commandment." It isn't that they say they disagree with me, it is that they say I am leading people to apostacy when I say such things.

I accept the human frailties of the brethern. Heck, I take comfort in knowing Peter, as great as he was, had set backs. My noting of those frailties when I do isn't a condemnation of the brethern, it is a notation to those who think we should be blindly following everything that they don't have a foundation to stand on when preaching to me.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by Tex

What part? The "I think it might be..." or the "I'm not sure..."? Or the "a friend of a friend of a friend" perhaps? Maybe you could share a good Three Nephite story with us too.

Sarcasm aside, there's always more to these stories, and you have about 3% of this one in your post. Even honest, professional journalists who actually name their sources get stuff wrong, sometimes very wrong. I'm inclined to give both Jessop and Packer (the next man in line to lead the church, lest we forget) the benefit of the doubt.

I don't even mind that the apostles' human frailties are occasionally exposed. They are human after all. It's the glee that some folks take in it that really bugs.

Believe it or don't. But I am 100% confident this happened.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

Believe it or don't. But I am 100% confident this happened.

I certainly believe it could happen. I guess what is dissapointing to some is to find out a lot of things in the church are run just like any beaurocracy. Somehow we wish all the brethern were the embodiment of the Savior here on earth. We would like to believe that from one Bishop to the next, things are run the same way because everything the Bishop does is a result of God whispering in his ear.

I don't need anyone else to believe as I do, but i am quite comfortable feeling that 75% of the decisions made in the church are done so by human beings and not done as a result of the whisperings of the Holy Ghost.

Thus, one Apostle could like Jessop's style and another not. Like any organization, when the new guy comes in, he puts in effect his managment style and likes and dislikes.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

Believe it or don't. But I am 100% confident this happened.

You are 100% confident that something happened about which you are less than 100% sure about.

Heh.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by Tex

You are 100% confident that something happened about which you are less than 100% sure about.

Heh.

On occasion, I think you may actually be a bright guy. Then you go out of your way to convince me I am wrong.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

On occasion, I think you may actually be a bright guy. Then you go out of your way to convince me I am wrong.

I suppose on the playground this is the point where I'm supposed to yell, "No, YOU'RE stupid!"

[SoCalCoug]

Originally Posted by Tex

I suppose on the playground this is the point where I'm supposed to yell, "No, YOU'RE stupid!"

You have a real knack for leading a discussion to this point.