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ERCougar · 07-15-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jay santos

I have sympathy because we nearly avoided a tragedy. We had come home from a long outing on a summer afternoon tired and exhausted. Three kids in the car. We get them out, we all lie down to take naps in beds. I'm about to fall asleep when I ask my wife if she brought in the baby. "No I thought you did". We jump up and check and she's still in the car in her baby seat asleep.

Also another time, as newlyweds we nearly killed ourselves in the car. Pull in the garage on a cold winter night, start some nookie going, leave the car on to keep the heater running, yada yada yada, fall asleep in each other's arms, I wake up and realize the garage is filling up with CO and I can barely breathe. We run in the house laughing.

That's what I'm saying. I don't think that people are judgmental to be outraged by this story--hopefully it raises awareness and people take a little extra care. I've been too close to tragedy before, and I have a hard time deciding just how at-fault this woman is without knowing all the facts. I think the number of responses admonishing those who are judging indicates that there are many others who have been in similar circumstances.

DrumNFeather · 07-15-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ERCougar

That's what I'm saying. I don't think that people are judgmental to be outraged by this story--hopefully it raises awareness and people take a little extra care. I've been too close to tragedy before, and I have a hard time deciding just how at-fault this woman is without knowing all the facts. I think the number of responses admonishing those who are judging indicates that there are many others who have been in similar circumstances.

I'm not outraged as much as I am incredulous as to how that kind of thing can happen. But, as you suggested, perhaps I will better understand with more life experience, or at least experience as a parent.

marsupial · 07-15-2008, 05:53 PM

Several years ago our hometeachers were at our house and we had been chatting for a good 20 minutes when suddenly one of them says "crap!" abruptly stands up and runs out the door. He returned two minutes later with his infant son in his arms. Fortunately, it was spring and not summer. The kid had been awake and just chillin' in his carseat like it was no big deal.

RockyBalboa · 07-15-2008, 08:17 PM

So let me get this straight.

One has to be a parent in order to understand or have sympathy that being a parent is required in understanding why someone is a bad enough parent to leave their youngster in a boiling car and that understanding this kind of supposed "mental lapse" requires sympathy......if you're a parent that is.

So do all parents relate to this kind of child abuse or is it a unique phenomenon?

jay santos · 07-15-2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

So let me get this straight.

One has to be a parent in order to understand or have sympathy that being a parent is required in understanding why someone is a bad enough parent to leave their youngster in a boiling car and that understanding this kind of supposed "mental lapse" requires sympathy......if you're a parent that is.

So do all parents relate to this kind of child abuse or is it a unique phenomenon?

shame based

ERCougar · 07-15-2008, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

So let me get this straight.

One has to be a parent in order to understand or have sympathy that being a parent is required in understanding why someone is a bad enough parent to leave their youngster in a boiling car and that understanding this kind of supposed "mental lapse" requires sympathy......if you're a parent that is.

So do all parents relate to this kind of child abuse or is it a unique phenomenon?

How many kids you got?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

RockyBalboa · 07-15-2008, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ERCougar

How many kids you got?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

So one has to have kids to be sympathetic and think it's not neglectful and abusive to leave a toddler in a boiling car?

MikeWaters · 07-15-2008, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

So one has to have kids to be sympathetic and think it's not neglectful and abusive to leave a toddler in a boiling car?

bad stuff happens.

toddler who walks out of house at 5am and walks onto highway.

farrah's ward family toddler drowned in pool.

etc, etc.

Jeff Lebowski · 07-15-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

bad stuff happens.

toddler who walks out of house at 5am and walks onto highway.

farrah's ward family toddler drowned in pool.

etc, etc.

I know two fathers who backed over toddlers in the driveway, both resulting in deaths.

Jail time would have been cruel in this case. She will suffer enough.

MikeWaters · 07-15-2008, 11:11 PM

An example. On this last campout, I had a 16, 17, and 12 year old.

The 16 and 17 year old at about 9pm walked out of camp without telling me where they were going.

It was close to 11pm, and the thought occurred to me, that maybe they had gone swimming in one of the lakes. The thought of one or both of them drowning flashed through my mind. So I hustled out of camp looking for them. I never did find them. They came back to camp fine and dandy.

Nothing happened, but man, no one wants to live with it, if it does happen.

07-15-2008, 05:53 PM	#3
marsupial Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-I... Isn't it so fun to spell? Posts: 1,701	Several years ago our hometeachers were at our house and we had been chatting for a good 20 minutes when suddenly one of them says "crap!" abruptly stands up and runs out the door. He returned two minutes later with his infant son in his arms. Fortunately, it was spring and not summer. The kid had been awake and just chillin' in his carseat like it was no big deal. __________________ "Mormon men are inherently sexy..." -Archaea

07-15-2008, 08:17 PM	#4
RockyBalboa Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 7,297	So let me get this straight. One has to be a parent in order to understand or have sympathy that being a parent is required in understanding why someone is a bad enough parent to leave their youngster in a boiling car and that understanding this kind of supposed "mental lapse" requires sympathy......if you're a parent that is. So do all parents relate to this kind of child abuse or is it a unique phenomenon? __________________ Masquerading as Cougarguards very own genius dumbass since 05'.

07-15-2008, 11:11 PM	#10
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	An example. On this last campout, I had a 16, 17, and 12 year old. The 16 and 17 year old at about 9pm walked out of camp without telling me where they were going. It was close to 11pm, and the thought occurred to me, that maybe they had gone swimming in one of the lakes. The thought of one or both of them drowning flashed through my mind. So I hustled out of camp looking for them. I never did find them. They came back to camp fine and dandy. Nothing happened, but man, no one wants to live with it, if it does happen.