Juanita Brooks and Fawn Brodie: views on sex

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

That's what she said.

My condolences to your wife then.

[Sleeping in EQ]

If you ever want a laugh, or to be frightened, pick up a copy of the book Fascinating Womanhood. This book still gets passed around in LDS circles, and the thinking is right out of the 19th century.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

If you ever want a laugh, or to be frightened, pick up a copy of the book Fascinating Womanhood. This book still gets passed around in LDS circles, and the thinking is right out of the 19th century.

Still? I hope not. They should be sued for destroying marriages, anybody who publishes or distributes that book from hell.

[Sleeping in EQ]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Still? I hope not. They should be sued for destroying marriages, anybody who publishes or distributes that book from hell.

The sixth printing was in 2007. I found this review on Amazon in about 10 seconds (be sure to notice the name of the reviewer):


0 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
Timeless Wisdom, January 18, 2008
By Inion Wilton "Mormon Hearthkeeper" (Argyle, NY United States) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Fascinating Womanhood (Mass Market Paperback)
This book is priceless. The wisdom contained within it's pages is a recipe for marital and personal happiness and fulfillment. It is unfortunate that it's message will be rejected by so many women who yearn for the peace and happiness it promises.

This book may seem full of 'old fashioned' notions about men and women, but I, with so many other thousands of women, know that these ideals are not outmoded, and are desperatly needed by so many more!

I recommend this book to any woman I meet who is unhappy in their marriage or significant relationship. It is the key to unlocking the door to heaven!

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

The sixth printing was in 2007. I found this review on Amazon in about 10 seconds (be sure to notice the name of the reviewer):


0 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
Timeless Wisdom, January 18, 2008
By Inion Wilton "Mormon Hearthkeeper" (Argyle, NY United States) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Fascinating Womanhood (Mass Market Paperback)
This book is priceless. The wisdom contained within it's pages is a recipe for marital and personal happiness and fulfillment. It is unfortunate that it's message will be rejected by so many women who yearn for the peace and happiness it promises.

This book may seem full of 'old fashioned' notions about men and women, but I, with so many other thousands of women, know that these ideals are not outmoded, and are desperatly needed by so many more!

I recommend this book to any woman I meet who is unhappy in their marriage or significant relationship. It is the key to unlocking the door to heaven!

Signed 14th wife to FLDS leader, Warren Jeffs.

Shocking.

[TripletDaddy]

If you are not a sexologist, there are only two reasons you would be reading books on 19th century British sexuality:

1. You are a pervert
2. You have an unfulfilling sex life and therefore read about it in books

I suppose there is the Pete Townsend excuse....you are reading it for educational purposes.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

If you are not a sexologist, there are only two reasons you would be reading books on 19th century British sexuality:

1. You are a pervert
2. You have an unfulfilling sex life and therefore read about it in books

I suppose there is the Pete Townsend excuse....you are reading it for educational purposes.

It was a book read long time ago, when Y asked me about Utestar's perversions. So I discovered the roots were in his British ancestry. It has helped resolve their relationship ever since.

[cougjunkie]

Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

The sixth printing was in 2007. I found this review on Amazon in about 10 seconds (be sure to notice the name of the reviewer):


0 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
Timeless Wisdom, January 18, 2008
By Inion Wilton "Mormon Hearthkeeper" (Argyle, NY United States) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Fascinating Womanhood (Mass Market Paperback)
This book is priceless. The wisdom contained within it's pages is a recipe for marital and personal happiness and fulfillment. It is unfortunate that it's message will be rejected by so many women who yearn for the peace and happiness it promises.

This book may seem full of 'old fashioned' notions about men and women, but I, with so many other thousands of women, know that these ideals are not outmoded, and are desperatly needed by so many more!

I recommend this book to any woman I meet who is unhappy in their marriage or significant relationship. It is the key to unlocking the door to heaven!

I have met Helen Andelin, that book is quite funny she came and spoke at UVSC during my ethics and values class. Her grand daughter was in my class and she actually starred in the Vagina Monologues at UVU.

Helen Andelin talks about how you should always have a fresh roll of paper towels for your husband, you should wake up an hour before him and make sure your hair and makeup is done before he wakes up, he should never see you not looking your best. As of a few years ago she still believed that. Her granddaughter on the other hand was a big time liberal and I honestly think she may have been a lesbian.

[cougjunkie]

Here are some excerpts from her book:

How to be the Perfect Wife.
This was taken from Helen B. Andelin's Fascinating Womanhood, published by Pacific Press in 1965. The course was designed to teach women how to be happy in marriage.

GET YOUR WORK DONE
Plan your tasks with an eye on the clock. Finish or interrupt them an hour before he is expected. Your anguished cry, "Are you home already?" is not exactly a warm welcome.
HAVE DINNER READY
Plan ahead, even the night before to have a delicious meal, on time. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospects of a good meal are part of the warm welcome needed.
PREPARE YOURSELF
Take 15 minutes to rest so you will be refreshed when he arrives. This will also make you happy to see him instead of too tired to care. Turn off the worry and be glad to be alive and grateful for the man who is going to walk in. While you are resting you can be thinking about your Fascinating Womanhood assignment and all you can do to make him happy and give his spirits a lift. When you arise, take care of your appearance. Touch up your makeup, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh looking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people. Be a little gay and a little more interesting. His boring day may need a lift.
CLEAR AWAY THE CLUTTER
Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives, gathering up school books, toys, paper, etc. in a bucket or wastebasket and put them in the back bedroom for sorting later. Then run a dustcloth over the tables. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order and it will give you a lift too. Having the house in order is another way of letting him know that you care and have planned for this homecoming.
PREPARE THE CHILDREN
Take just a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces (if they are small) comb their hair, and if necessary change their clothes. They are little treasures and he would like to see them look the part.
MINIMIZE ALL NOISE
Especially give heed to this if your husband has to join rush hour traffic. At the time of his arrival eliminate noise of washer, dryer, dishwasher or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet at the time of their father's arrival. Let them be a little noisy beforehand to get it out of their system.
BE HAPPY TO SEE HIM
Greet him with a warm smile and act glad to see him. Tell him that it is good to have him home. This may make his day worthwhile. If there is any romance left in you, he needs it now.
SOME DON'TS

• <LI type=disc>Don't greet him with problems and complaints. Solve the problems you can before he gets home and save those you must discuss with him until later in the evening. <LI type=disc>Also, don't complain if he is late for dinner. Count this as a minor problem when compared with what he might have gone through that day.
• Don't allow the children to rush at him with problems or requests. Allow them to briefly greet their father but save demands for later.

MAKE HIM COMFORTABLE
Have him lean back into a comfortable chair or suggest he lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. Arrange his pillow and offer to massage his neck and shoulders and take off his shoes. Don't insist on this however. Turn on music if it is one of his pleasures. Speak in a soft, soothing, pleasant voice. Allow him to relax - to unwind.
LISTEN TO HIM
You may have a dozen things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first, then he will be a more responsive listener later.
MAKE THE EVENING HIS
Never complain if he does not take you out to dinner or to other places of entertainment. Instead, try to understand his world of strain and pressure, his need to be home and to relax. If he is cross or irritable, never fight back. Again, try to understand his world of strain.
THE GOAL
Try to make your home a place of peace and order where your husband can renew himself in body and spirit. Then add to this the application of all the principles of Fascinating Womanhood and your husband will want to come home. He will rather be with you than with anyone else in the world and will spend whatever time he can possibly spare with you. Try living all of these rules for his homecoming and see what happens. This is the way to bring a man home to your side, not by pressure, persuasion or moral obligation.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by cougjunkie

Here are some excerpts from her book:

How to be the Perfect Wife.
This was taken from Helen B. Andelin's Fascinating Womanhood, published by Pacific Press in 1965. The course was designed to teach women how to be happy in marriage.

GET YOUR WORK DONE
Plan your tasks with an eye on the clock. Finish or interrupt them an hour before he is expected. Your anguished cry, "Are you home already?" is not exactly a warm welcome.
HAVE DINNER READY
Plan ahead, even the night before to have a delicious meal, on time. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospects of a good meal are part of the warm welcome needed.
PREPARE YOURSELF
Take 15 minutes to rest so you will be refreshed when he arrives. This will also make you happy to see him instead of too tired to care. Turn off the worry and be glad to be alive and grateful for the man who is going to walk in. While you are resting you can be thinking about your Fascinating Womanhood assignment and all you can do to make him happy and give his spirits a lift. When you arise, take care of your appearance. Touch up your makeup, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh looking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people. Be a little gay and a little more interesting. His boring day may need a lift.
CLEAR AWAY THE CLUTTER
Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives, gathering up school books, toys, paper, etc. in a bucket or wastebasket and put them in the back bedroom for sorting later. Then run a dustcloth over the tables. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order and it will give you a lift too. Having the house in order is another way of letting him know that you care and have planned for this homecoming.
PREPARE THE CHILDREN
Take just a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces (if they are small) comb their hair, and if necessary change their clothes. They are little treasures and he would like to see them look the part.
MINIMIZE ALL NOISE
Especially give heed to this if your husband has to join rush hour traffic. At the time of his arrival eliminate noise of washer, dryer, dishwasher or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet at the time of their father's arrival. Let them be a little noisy beforehand to get it out of their system.
BE HAPPY TO SEE HIM
Greet him with a warm smile and act glad to see him. Tell him that it is good to have him home. This may make his day worthwhile. If there is any romance left in you, he needs it now.
SOME DON'TS

• <LI type=disc>Don't greet him with problems and complaints. Solve the problems you can before he gets home and save those you must discuss with him until later in the evening. <LI type=disc>Also, don't complain if he is late for dinner. Count this as a minor problem when compared with what he might have gone through that day.
• Don't allow the children to rush at him with problems or requests. Allow them to briefly greet their father but save demands for later.

MAKE HIM COMFORTABLE
Have him lean back into a comfortable chair or suggest he lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. Arrange his pillow and offer to massage his neck and shoulders and take off his shoes. Don't insist on this however. Turn on music if it is one of his pleasures. Speak in a soft, soothing, pleasant voice. Allow him to relax - to unwind.
LISTEN TO HIM
You may have a dozen things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first, then he will be a more responsive listener later.
MAKE THE EVENING HIS
Never complain if he does not take you out to dinner or to other places of entertainment. Instead, try to understand his world of strain and pressure, his need to be home and to relax. If he is cross or irritable, never fight back. Again, try to understand his world of strain.
THE GOAL
Try to make your home a place of peace and order where your husband can renew himself in body and spirit. Then add to this the application of all the principles of Fascinating Womanhood and your husband will want to come home. He will rather be with you than with anyone else in the world and will spend whatever time he can possibly spare with you. Try living all of these rules for his homecoming and see what happens. This is the way to bring a man home to your side, not by pressure, persuasion or moral obligation.

there's probably a few of us here thinking, "that doesn't sound so bad."