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04-17-2007, 04:23 AM | #1 | |
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Is gun control the answer? To stop circumstances like this, no. Is restricting the purchase of rounds the answer? To stop mass murders like this, no. But less guns, and less bullets in the hands of private citizens, IMO, is better than more. I'd be interested in the probablity that an individual has of being in a circumstance where a gun would dissuade or assist in a positive manner a heightened violent situation. As far as the shooter is concerned, looks like he is an 'Oriental Male' who was the one who called in the three bomb threats. Appears he acted alolne, was a graduate student, seems he shot the teacher first in the second set of shootings, which begs the few question: Was the teacher somehow involved in this love triangle? It appears that the VT administration and local police were extremely negligent, and that the 30 who were shot in the engineering hall were died because of this negligence. |
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04-17-2007, 04:30 AM | #2 |
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If this is the case, how do you explain Washington DC? Some of the strictest gun laws in the country are in place there and yet, it has one of the highest murder rates in the country.
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#4 made me chuckle.
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All I know is that thirty-three lives were lost. And yet we as a society immediately launch into arguments over domestic policy or university procedure. Should we not pause to grieve for the lives lost and pray for the families affected before we engage in such empty intellectualism?
It goes along with Mike's comment. America is indifferent. We just like things to talk about at the water cooler. |
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We are sadly indifferent. And these lives will be lost in vain. Much vanity, very little sanity.
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04-17-2007, 05:04 AM | #7 |
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I don't see it the same way. I have heard very little but an outporing of sympathy for the victims and expressions of shock and horror.
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04-17-2007, 11:50 AM | #8 | |
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Right now, with little known facts, it is all about amping up the gun debate again as well as criticizing Va. Tech administration (see O'Reilly), which is not where the focus should be, but it is the world we live in.
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I guess it is the knee jerk reaction in our society today is to immediately place blame on someone, some institution or entity so that there is a target to which all the anger, grief and pain can be directed.
This again illustrates some of the fallacies of our society. 1) Government is based upon social contract where we give up freedoms and rights in order to live in a governed and orderly society. One of the rights that is being assailed more often now is the right to protect ourselves. Plain and simple, the government cannot and in some cases will not protect us. They cannot be omnipresent, nor do we want them to be. The responsibility to protect ourselves and our families falls upon the shoulders of the individual. In many states now, law abiding citizens can take advantage of laws that facilitate this in an orderly manner. Some would argue that there should be no infringement upon this right, ala Vermont! 2) Life is cheap, a 2 cent bullet is all it is worth, so make the most of it. |
04-17-2007, 03:20 PM | #10 |
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I've hesistated bringing this up but thought I would add a thought from my real life experience of a random act of violence.
I've often wondered many times whether me carrying a concealed weapon the night I was jumped by 2 thugs would've helped or hindered me. Honestly, I just don't know. It un-nerves me to recall that day and think about what would've happened if the violence had escalated to the level of gunfire. I just don't know how different the situation would've been or how I would've reacted. Were it to happen again I still don't know how I'd realy react. The incident bothered me for quite awhile. I have never owned a gun in my life, and not sure if I will. The thought of going through the education and process of getting a concealed weapons permit has crossed my mind many times since then and I've yet to act on that. Someday I might. At the same time I'm all for the rights of the 2nd Ammendment.
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