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pelagius · 05-01-2007, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Did you catch our discussion about the Bringhurst biography? SU and I both read it. Well, to be exact, I read the book, and SU read a review, but that's practically the same thing. Just like I actually watched the Utes play basketball this season, and SU read articles about the games. But who's counting such things?

I thought the biography of Brodie was interesting. But at the end of the day, I don't consider Brodie an interesting person of the Mormon lineage. She was in many respects never a Mormon, and as such, I don't think she really understood Mormon ways. She was a cataloger and writer, and deaf to the Spirit. In my mind, the biography made this very clear.

Thanks, MW. That must have been before my time or when I was only doing football posts. I'll check out the archives. I confess I haven't read the Bringhurst biography of Brodie. The book I mentioned contains a couple of articles by him that focus on her and that was enough for me. I mean it was interesting but I'm not sure I want a complete biography.

Jeff Lebowski · 05-01-2007, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pelagius

Thanks, MW. That must have been before my time or when I was only doing football posts. I'll check out the archives. I confess I haven't read the Bringhurst biography of Brodie. The book I mentioned contains a couple of articles by him that focus on her and that was enough for me. I mean it was interesting but I'm not sure I want a complete biography.

Well, let me know if you ever change your mind. I have Mike's old copy. We may as well let it make the rounds.

MikeWaters · 05-01-2007, 04:59 AM

The biography is pretty short and a quick read. It is also cheap. So cheap that I got an extra copy and sent it to Jeff Lebowski when he won one of the pick em contests.

One important conclusion I came to was that Brodie was not a true apostate. In my view a true apostate is someone that understands spiritual things, and then turns away from God in emnity. This is not Brodie. She never understood spiritual things. I guess in a way I take comfort in that. Maybe in the great cosmic scheme of things this was her role to play in life. To expand Mormon history, even if she did it in a non-neutral way.

Also of note is that Brodie's mother (David O. McKay's sister in law) was not a believer.

Interestingly, a certain member of this board has claimed evidence that Brodie had some sort of profound regret about her biography (it is clear there were some regrets from the Bringhurst bio, but this poster suggests more), and that by the end of her life she had more of Mormon-ish spiritual life than she ever admitted. I don't know if this is true, as actual evidence is not forthcoming, but it's mildly interesting to think about.

Mormonism is profoundly optimistic about the fate of souls. If Emma can be re-adopted by the faithful, then maybe so too can Brodie.

MikeWaters · 05-01-2007, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Well, let me know if you ever change your mind. I have Mike's old copy. We may as well let it make the rounds.

I think I gave you the new copy. Either way, same thing.

05-01-2007, 04:59 AM	#13
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	The biography is pretty short and a quick read. It is also cheap. So cheap that I got an extra copy and sent it to Jeff Lebowski when he won one of the pick em contests. One important conclusion I came to was that Brodie was not a true apostate. In my view a true apostate is someone that understands spiritual things, and then turns away from God in emnity. This is not Brodie. She never understood spiritual things. I guess in a way I take comfort in that. Maybe in the great cosmic scheme of things this was her role to play in life. To expand Mormon history, even if she did it in a non-neutral way. Also of note is that Brodie's mother (David O. McKay's sister in law) was not a believer. Interestingly, a certain member of this board has claimed evidence that Brodie had some sort of profound regret about her biography (it is clear there were some regrets from the Bringhurst bio, but this poster suggests more), and that by the end of her life she had more of Mormon-ish spiritual life than she ever admitted. I don't know if this is true, as actual evidence is not forthcoming, but it's mildly interesting to think about. Mormonism is profoundly optimistic about the fate of souls. If Emma can be re-adopted by the faithful, then maybe so too can Brodie.