Lieberman is the new Gestapo

[MikeWaters]

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...007-07-01.html

The idea of cameras everywhere like Great Britain is repulsive to me.

Orwell had it right.

[Venkman]

I'm with ya Mike. I despise the attitude some have that only those who have something to hide would be against this.

[Mindfulcoug]

Mr,Iraqi is amazing!
has the ability to see the progress us troops have made in iraq!

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/05/hbc-90000203

and is whimsical on iran war!

http://www.observer.com/2007/lieberm...an-war-fantasy

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...007-07-01.html

The idea of cameras everywhere like Great Britain is repulsive to me.

Orwell had it right.

Me too. Part of the nanny state philosophy. Libermann is one of the worst statists/authoritarians in congress right now. Tax and spend liberal on one side and weak on civil liberties on the other.

[BYU71]

Just a warning Mike. Don't post this on CB. You will get suspended for sying a bad thing about a Jew.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...007-07-01.html

The idea of cameras everywhere like Great Britain is repulsive to me.

Orwell had it right.

Don't fool yourself. Surveillance cameras are already commonplace in high traffic areas in major cities.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Don't fool yourself. Surveillance cameras are already commonplace in high traffic areas in major cities.

and I am not a fan.

[Sleeping in EQ]

The literature critiquing surveillance culture goes back a long, long ways. Orwell, Huxley, and Nolan & Johnson are just some of the popular writers. There's a ton of scholarly stuff coming from every political persuasion imaginable.

Has anybody read Max Barry's Jennifer Government? It would be an excellent summer read for those looking for fiction that sticks to the ribs.

[8ballrollin]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Orwell had it right.

Orwell is like the New Testament - you can find a quote to support just about any position.

-Advertising is the rattling of a stick inside a swill bucket.

-So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot.

-All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.

-As with the Christian religion, the worst advertisement for Socialism is its adherents.

-Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.

-If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.

-Political chaos is connected with the decay of language... one can probably bring about some improvement by starting at the verbal end.

-The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns, as it were, instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish squirting out ink.

[non sequitur]

It depends on the location of the camera and for what purposed the surveillance will be used. If the camera is placed in a public place that a police officer would have normal access to, I'm not that concerned. It's cheaper than paying a cop to stand on a street corner and look for bad guys.

That being said, I would only support the use of public cameras if the surveillance was used for national security. If they start using the cameras to issue tickets for jay-walking , then I have a problem with that.