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What was really sad about that case is that it was indeed based on pure bigotry. There was nothing in the BSA rules about celibacy; it was all about orientation. One could have been an entirely celibate, temple rec-worthy, faithful homosexual, but would have been excluded from participating in scouting. BSA already has rules in place for two-deep leadership and studies have shown that gays are no more likely to be pedophiles than straights. Even worse is the fact that the LDS church threatened to pull out of scouting had the ruling gone the other way. Why the hell do we care if a troop somewhere decides they are fine with a gay scoutmaster?
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An aside, one of my most powerful memories from high school was when my boyfriend my senior year found out his scoutmaster was gay. My boyfriend wept freely in my arms for an hour at least (and high school guys don't cry). I rather think it'd be easier on the boys if these guys could be honest with the kids, or if the BS organization did a better job of actually keeping the organization straight.
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Damn straight. I believe the concern, genius, is that some homosexual would've tried to force himself into an LDS troop.
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It's your argument, Tex. BSA would "be destroyed" because a subset of the parents wouldn't be comfortable with an organization that is friendly to gays.
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You are dodging again. The rule was based on orientation only. Not lifestyle, not promiscuity. Orientation. That's bigotry in my book. Again, I am all for freedom of association. But we were pushing it for the wrong reasons in this case.
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If YOU don't believe that,
then you are an idiot.
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No you can't be my son's scoutmaster. Sorry.
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