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Old 11-14-2007, 08:06 PM   #41
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Huh?

Was this a complete non sequitur, or is there some connection to being gay? Are only 15-24 aged males gay? Are only 15-24 aged gay males depressed enough to commit suicide? What percentage of those committing suicide were gay? What percentage were LDS?



I don't see calling those whom you're trying persuade "illiterate" as an effective technique for tolerant and non-rancorous discussion, but that's me.



Reminds me of a story I've told here before, about an elder in my mission who had a lady ready for baptism, except for the doctrine of reincarnation. She just couldn't give it up. The enterprising young man then showed her the 9th Article of Faith and said, "maybe reincarnation is just one of those doctrines that will be revealed in the future." She agreed to be baptized, and almost would've been had the zone leader not caught it.

Wishful thinking.

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Parenthetically, I'm curious as to how this man's membership will be affected. Depends on the strictness of his Stake President and how much more activism he engages in, I suppose.
So this was the big unveiling of your take on the issue? Inspiring.
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Old 11-14-2007, 08:09 PM   #42
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So this was the big unveiling of your take on the issue? Inspiring.
Sometimes when I express my view early, it taints the rest of the thread. In an effort to really understand what others think, sometimes I wait a little bit.

No reason to get nasty.
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Old 11-14-2007, 08:15 PM   #43
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Sometimes when I express my view early, it taints the rest of the thread. In an effort to really understand what others think, sometimes I wait a little bit.

No reason to get nasty.
It was sarcasm, not nastiness.

So I am still unclear, what is your view on homosexuality and the Church?

Your comments were related almost exclusively to his writing, not the issue.
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Old 11-14-2007, 08:27 PM   #44
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I think it's safe to say that few if any gay folks would convert to Mormonism, so the average likelihood of homosexuality would only be found among those born into Mormonism. I don't know what the average likelihood is, but it seems we should assume it to be slightly less among the general church membership. Still, it's safe to say there are at least tens of thousands, and I don't envy them. It has to be tough.
As non-sequitar offered his opinion about the LDS Church's stance on homosexuality I just don't think it is that easy for gay Mormons to just leave the LDS Church. I think there are many who have SSA yet also believe they have an individual testimony in the restored gospel and all that it entails. I cannot imagine a more difficult gethsamne to bare.
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Old 11-14-2007, 08:33 PM   #45
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It was sarcasm, not nastiness.

So I am still unclear, what is your view on homosexuality and the Church?

Your comments were related almost exclusively to his writing, not the issue.
From my perspective, his writing is the issue. You want to know my general view ... do a search.

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I cannot imagine a more difficult gethsamne to bare.
To bare? Freudian slip?
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From my perspective, his writing is the issue. You want to know my general view ... do a search.



To bare? Freudian slip?
Stupid HOMOnyms...
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Perhaps providing the data would just be a big pain in the butt?
I imagine he's used to that by now. Shouldn't be an issue.
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From my perspective, his writing is the issue. You want to know my general view ... do a search.
No reason to get nasty.
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