BYU SOS--1st grader's take

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

You must not be paying very good attention to who we've attemped to schedule and what Holmoe has said on the subject.

I've been paying attention to all the home and home out of conference games going on in the country.

I'm conditioned to believe that a BYU admin's lying when his mouth is moving.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by jay santos

I've been paying attention to all the home and home out of conference games going on in the country.

I'm conditioned to believe that a BYU admin's lying when his mouth is moving.

So you're simultaneously paranoid and naive? That's pretty funny.

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

So you're simultaneously paranoid and naive? That's pretty funny.

Rondo was the last admin that told the straight truth in public without spin. He said he could pick up the phone and call just about any AD in the country and get a home and home. That was only 10 years ago. The college football landscape has not dramatically increased so much in 10 years that we now can't get anybody to answer the phone.

We currently have several BCS schools on future schedules. Bronco's said he doesn't want more than two on the schedule, and since we have at least two for quite a few years out, we're not attempting to get more.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by jay santos

Rondo was the last admin that told the straight truth in public without spin. He said he could pick up the phone and call just about any AD in the country and get a home and home. That was only 10 years ago. The college football landscape has not dramatically increased so much in 10 years that we now can't get anybody to answer the phone.

We currently have several BCS schools on future schedules. Bronco's said he doesn't want more than two on the schedule, and since we have at least two for quite a few years out, we're not attempting to get more.

LOL. 10 years ago predates the BCS. That makes all the difference in the world. Holmoe has struck out (or at least has failed up through today, with negotiations possibly continuing) nailing down series with several BCS teams recently.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by jay santos

Rondo was the last admin that told the straight truth in public without spin. He said he could pick up the phone and call just about any AD in the country and get a home and home. That was only 10 years ago. The college football landscape has not dramatically increased so much in 10 years that we now can't get anybody to answer the phone.

We currently have several BCS schools on future schedules. Bronco's said he doesn't want more than two on the schedule, and since we have at least two for quite a few years out, we're not attempting to get more.

Jay, this is not as easy as you make it sound, nor as easy as Rondo makes it sound.

Holmoe has said privately that most of the BCS schools....the marquee ones.....they do NOT want to play us OOC. Look at who the B10, SEC, and Big12 schedule OOC.....they play fringe D1 teams because they feel that their conference is tough enough without having to play the likes of BYU OOC every year. The Pac 10 gets credit for at least scheduling decent OOC games (not all, but many do)....and look what they get for it this year.....they get embarassed because they hit us in an up year while they were in a down year.

BCS ADs dont want to deal with that. They want to go into conference play with no losses.

You need to stop looking at it from Holmoe's perspective and look at it from the BCS perspective. For the most part, they don't need to schedule us.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Jay, this is not as easy as you make it sound, nor as easy as Rondo makes it sound.

Holmoe has said privately that most of the BCS schools....the marquee ones.....they do NOT want to play us OOC. Look at who the B10, SEC, and Big12 schedule OOC.....they play fringe D1 teams because they feel that their conference is tough enough without having to play the likes of BYU OOC every year. The Pac 10 gets credit for at least scheduling decent OOC games (not all, but many do)....and look what they get for it this year.....they get embarassed because they hit us in an up year while they were in a down year.

BCS ADs dont want to deal with that. They want to go into conference play with no losses.

You need to stop looking at it from Holmoe's perspective and look at it from the BCS perspective. For the most part, they don't need to schedule us.

The addition of a dozen or more D-1A teams over the last 15 years combined with the NCAA allowing all D-1AA games to count towards bowl eligibility has also contributed to the ability/incentive for top teams to fill up their OOC slots with lower risk scheduling.

Of course there are some top BCS programs (USC) that take on all comers, but they are a dying breed.

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

LOL. 10 years ago predates the BCS. That makes all the difference in the world. Holmoe has struck out (or at least has failed up through today, with negotiations possibly continuing) nailing down series with several BCS teams recently.

LOL what?

College football OOC scheduling has had a dramatic change in the last ten years?

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Jay, this is not as easy as you make it sound, nor as easy as Rondo makes it sound.

Holmoe has said privately that most of the BCS schools....the marquee ones.....they do NOT want to play us OOC. Look at who the B10, SEC, and Big12 schedule OOC.....they play fringe D1 teams because they feel that their conference is tough enough without having to play the likes of BYU OOC every year. The Pac 10 gets credit for at least scheduling decent OOC games (not all, but many do)....and look what they get for it this year.....they get embarassed because they hit us in an up year while they were in a down year.

BCS ADs dont want to deal with that. They want to go into conference play with no losses.

You need to stop looking at it from Holmoe's perspective and look at it from the BCS perspective. For the most part, they don't need to schedule us.

It sounds good but it's not true if you look at the data.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by jay santos

LOL what?

College football OOC scheduling has had a dramatic change in the last ten years?

Jay, how many D-1A teams played 1-AA opponents in 1997?

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by jay santos

It sounds good but it's not true if you look at the data.

I would love to see the data, honestly.

Our criteria..

1. Top, or at least respectable BCS conference opponent (sorry, Arizona)
2. That same desired BCS opponent has a history of strong or at least fairly decent OOC scheduling

Who are these teams? We have played some and continue to play a few here and there. Are you saying you want the scheduling to get better or stay the same? Maybe I am missing your point, so just want to be sure.