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Archaea · 07-14-2008, 10:07 PM

Assuming a gal is no longer a young woman, cool or immodest?

Do you really agree that the human form is so awful it needs to be covered like with a Burkha?

And maybe I have become too gentile, but this social custom does not seem correct to me. And yes I'm aware it runs counter to decades of teachings regarding dress.

Do practicing LDS all believe that, except perhaps yours truly?

Women, what are your opinions?

BYU71 · 07-14-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

Assuming a gal is no longer a young woman, cool or immodest?

I think the gal who hosts Mormon Biographies or something like that on KBYU looks pretty darn cool in hers.

TripletDaddy · 07-14-2008, 10:10 PM

There are flyers all over the chapel for the upcoming youth conference.

the flyers specify: NO TANKINIS.

I think bikinis are awesome on Brooke Burke (yes, Junkie, I already know....)

I dont think they are awesome on random wife in my ward who wears it to ward swim party.

Archaea · 07-14-2008, 10:14 PM

My question is this, more basic. What is so horrible about the human form, that we are ashamed of it?

Are they so afraid that everything leads to rampant orgies, or that we're unable to calm our thoughts?

Jeff Lebowski · 07-14-2008, 10:15 PM

"Cool or immodest?"

That's a false dichotomy.

Archaea · 07-14-2008, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

"Cool or immodest?"

That's a false dichotomy.

Is uncovered always immodest?

In some ways, I see what the leaders are trying to do, WoW, "modest dress", and curtailing language, et al, as a form of branding of the product.

And I'm not stating that everybody needs to look skanky, but I disagree the uncovered human form is inherently immodest.

A dress which has holes for nipples is immodest, but a dress by virtue of its sheerness which allows the body to be suggestive is not.

jay santos · 07-14-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

Is uncovered always immodest?

In some ways, I see what the leaders are trying to do, WoW, "modest dress", and curtailing language, et al, as a form of branding of the product.

And I'm not stating that everybody needs to look skanky, but I disagree the uncovered human form is inherently immodest.

A dress which has holes for nipples is immodest, but a dress by virtue of its sheerness which allows the body to be suggestive is not.

I know you guys like to throw out this "branding" concept every now and then, and I suppose there's a time I agree the church is branding. But do you really think WoW, modest dress, curtailing language et al is merely a branding strategy??

BYU71 · 07-14-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jay santos

I know you guys like to throw out this "branding" concept every now and then, and I suppose there's a time I agree the church is branding. But do you really think WoW, modest dress, curtailing language et al is merely a branding strategy??

I think the church moves at a very slow pace. Women wearing Levis for example. Surely if it is OK and not immodest now, it wasn't in 1979 when I went to BYU either. However, at the time it was claimed to be.

I wouldn't say "branding", just slow and I don't see anything wrong with that as long as we aren't condemning others as being pornographic who are a few years ahead of us.

myboynoah · 07-15-2008, 12:22 AM

Modest is hottest, Arch.

That you would bring this up, as well as Adam's penchant for leering at the MIA Maids, I'm going with immodest with this group. Got to draw the line somewhere.

marsupial · 07-15-2008, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

There are flyers all over the chapel for the upcoming youth conference.

the flyers specify: NO TANKINIS.

I think bikinis are awesome on Brooke Burke (yes, Junkie, I already know....)

I dont think they are awesome on random wife in my ward who wears it to ward swim party.

This was the rule in Memphis when I was a YW leader. I bought a one-piece for a swim party, but honestly it showed more than my tankini.

View Poll Results: Bikini, cool or immodest
Cool, unless she's two ton Bertha	36	75.00%
Cool, every gal should own four or five	5	10.42%
Uncool, immodest from the bowels of hell	6	12.50%
Evil, shows you what living in Vegas can do to you	1	2.08%
Voters: 48. You may not vote on this poll

07-14-2008, 10:07 PM	#1
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	Bikinis cool or immodest? Assuming a gal is no longer a young woman, cool or immodest? Do you really agree that the human form is so awful it needs to be covered like with a Burkha? And maybe I have become too gentile, but this social custom does not seem correct to me. And yes I'm aware it runs counter to decades of teachings regarding dress. Do practicing LDS all believe that, except perhaps yours truly? Women, what are your opinions? __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα Last edited by Archaea; 07-14-2008 at 10:10 PM.

07-14-2008, 10:10 PM	#3
TripletDaddy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 9,483	There are flyers all over the chapel for the upcoming youth conference. the flyers specify: NO TANKINIS. I think bikinis are awesome on Brooke Burke (yes, Junkie, I already know....) I dont think they are awesome on random wife in my ward who wears it to ward swim party. __________________ Fitter. Happier. More Productive. "Everyone is against me. Everyone is fawning for 3D's attention and defending him." -- SeattleUte

07-14-2008, 10:14 PM	#4
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	My question is this, more basic. What is so horrible about the human form, that we are ashamed of it? Are they so afraid that everything leads to rampant orgies, or that we're unable to calm our thoughts? __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

07-14-2008, 10:15 PM	#5
Jeff Lebowski Charon Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the heart of darkness (Provo) Posts: 9,564	"Cool or immodest?" That's a false dichotomy. __________________ "... the arc of the universe is long but it bends toward justice." Martin Luther King, Jr.

07-15-2008, 12:22 AM	#9
myboynoah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Memphis freakin' Tennessee!!!!! Posts: 4,530	Modest is hottest, Arch. That you would bring this up, as well as Adam's penchant for leering at the MIA Maids, I'm going with immodest with this group. Got to draw the line somewhere. __________________ Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!! Religion rises inevitably from our apprehension of our own death. To give meaning to meaninglessness is the endless quest of all religion. When death becomes the center of our consciousness, then religion authentically begins. Of all religions that I know, the one that most vehemently and persuasively defies and denies the reality of death is the original Mormonism of the Prophet, Seer and Revelator, Joseph Smith.