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RockyBalboa · 12-03-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest

I am just wondering when the sexual tension between these two is going to boil over.

lol...paging Taqman.

Archaea · 12-03-2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Actually I know what you're arguing. You've been arguing all along that Utah's Rush D is medicore and I disagree. I thnk they are terrible.

So let's see if I get this quote accurately "I would say that if you are holding a team under their season average in rushing, that you actually don't have a terrible rush defense." ---- I just want to make sure that's your exact quote...because that will be used in the future to mock like you've so richly earned to be.

So you're telling me if Utah holds Navy to 250 yards (under their average)rushing that means you're rushing defense isn't terrible? I think ANY team regardless of their average offense rushing output is allowed to run for that many yards that tells me you're rushing defense is terrible. You are a pure bred shit for brains if you actually believe that hogwash. It's called denial of factual reality Funk.

If you guys hold Navy to under 200 yards then I'll agree your Rushing Defense is good to mediocre.

Two defenses for comparison. SDSU and Utah.

Which team had almost no chance of stopping BYU's running game?

SDSU is terrible and Utah is not very good but at least had a chance of stopping BYU.

RockyBalboa · 12-03-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

Two defenses for comparison. SDSU and Utah.

Which team had almost no chance of stopping BYU's running game?

SDSU is terrible and Utah is not very good but at least had a chance of stopping BYU.

I will definetly agree that the Aztec rushing D is worse than the Utes.

DrumNFeather · 12-03-2007, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cougjunkie

Rocky Balboa: 3, Mpfunk: 0

Funk he is owning you right now.

Rocky is like the Stephen A. Smith of CG...he repeats himself over and over and gets louder and louder until his opponent gives up. It's an effective strategy, to be sure

mpfunk · 12-03-2007, 05:45 PM

Again, let's look at results on the season.

Oregon St: 241 yards rushing, 5.5 ypc, 2 TDs.
Absolutely terrible game. I'll give you that one for sure. The Ute rushing defense looked pathetic against this team.

Air Force: 334 yards rushing, 5.3 ypc, 2 TDs.
Again terrible performance

At this point in the season, I would agree with Rocky's assessment

UCLA: 83 yards, 2.7 ypc, 0 TDs
First good performance of the year

UNLV: 196 yards, 4.3 ypc, 2 TDs
Terrible performance.

At this point is where you see the Utes starting to change players and start to get healthy.

Utah St: 136 yards, 3.0 ypc, 1 TD
This is actually an OK performance. Utes held Utah St to only 3 ypc which is solid. Utah St was slightly above their season average in yards, and below the season average in ypc

Louisville: 26 yards, 1.6 ypc, 1 TD
Not a bad performance at all.

San Diego St: 62 yards, 1.2 ypc, 1 TD
Good performance. Held 40 yards below season average, and nearly 2 yards below the season ypc.

TCU: 95 yards, 3.5 ypc, 1 TD
Good performance. Held TCU over 60 yards below season average for yards and below their average ypc.

CSU: 135 yards, 4.0 ypc, 0 TDs
I'd say this performance was pretty damn mediocre

WYoming: 37 yards, 1.2 ypc, 0 TDs
Very good performance

New Mexico: 81 yards, 2.6 ypc, 1 TD
Again good performance

BYU: 155 yards, 4.7 ypc, 1 TD
Utes did not play well with rush defense in this game.

Again these are not the stats of a terrible rush defense, these are the stats of a pretty mediocre rush defense. Since the Utes made a lot of changes on defense and got healthy (Long and Misi) there has been a vast improvement. At the beginning of the year they were terrible, at the end of the year they were mediocre.

Tex · 12-03-2007, 05:48 PM

So .... this is essentially an argument about whether a team's rush D is just "mediocre" or actually "terrible."

Sounds like a typical debate for a MWC team.

BlueK · 12-05-2007, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Most likely. I'm 90% certain Paul Johnson will leave. He's a hot commodity. But he's making 1.5 million at Navy, so there is good reason for him to stay.

No sane person would leave anywhere to coach at SMU. No one. Johnson needs to stay put or wait for a better job. SMU will pay the money for him but they won't win.

MikeWaters · 12-05-2007, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueK

No sane person would leave anywhere to coach at SMU. No one. Johnson needs to stay put or wait for a better job. SMU will pay the money for him but they won't win.

Art Briles went to Baylor. Never say never.

12-03-2007, 05:48 PM	#26
Tex Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,596	So .... this is essentially an argument about whether a team's rush D is just "mediocre" or actually "terrible." Sounds like a typical debate for a MWC team. __________________ "Have we been commanded not to call a prophet an insular racist? Link?" "And yes, [2010] is a very good year to be a Democrat. Perhaps the best year in decades ..." - Cali Coug "Oh dear, granny, what a long tail our puss has got." - Brigham Young

12-03-2007, 05:45 PM	#25
mpfunk Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,619	Again, let's look at results on the season. Oregon St: 241 yards rushing, 5.5 ypc, 2 TDs. Absolutely terrible game. I'll give you that one for sure. The Ute rushing defense looked pathetic against this team. Air Force: 334 yards rushing, 5.3 ypc, 2 TDs. Again terrible performance At this point in the season, I would agree with Rocky's assessment UCLA: 83 yards, 2.7 ypc, 0 TDs First good performance of the year UNLV: 196 yards, 4.3 ypc, 2 TDs Terrible performance. At this point is where you see the Utes starting to change players and start to get healthy. Utah St: 136 yards, 3.0 ypc, 1 TD This is actually an OK performance. Utes held Utah St to only 3 ypc which is solid. Utah St was slightly above their season average in yards, and below the season average in ypc Louisville: 26 yards, 1.6 ypc, 1 TD Not a bad performance at all. San Diego St: 62 yards, 1.2 ypc, 1 TD Good performance. Held 40 yards below season average, and nearly 2 yards below the season ypc. TCU: 95 yards, 3.5 ypc, 1 TD Good performance. Held TCU over 60 yards below season average for yards and below their average ypc. CSU: 135 yards, 4.0 ypc, 0 TDs I'd say this performance was pretty damn mediocre WYoming: 37 yards, 1.2 ypc, 0 TDs Very good performance New Mexico: 81 yards, 2.6 ypc, 1 TD Again good performance BYU: 155 yards, 4.7 ypc, 1 TD Utes did not play well with rush defense in this game. Again these are not the stats of a terrible rush defense, these are the stats of a pretty mediocre rush defense. Since the Utes made a lot of changes on defense and got healthy (Long and Misi) there has been a vast improvement. At the beginning of the year they were terrible, at the end of the year they were mediocre.